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Re: Yahoo Groups is closing down

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Post by woofie11 »

gameman144 wrote: post #73
woofie11 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's unlikely that any other company will outcompete Google on search. Why? I understand Google has a big database, but note that we're talking products, not just technologies. A "good enough" product in one dimension can still disrupt existing products if it's better in other dimensions.

I think this is the point; what we call search today is likely to be dominated by Google, but what we call search tomorrow could be dominated by a newcomer. For instance, map-based search is already a huge step above traditional Google searches for real-world locations and there's no reason to think there won't be more significant shifts in the future as well.

What we call search was dominated by Altavista before Google. It really didn't take much to break that dominance.

Stable dominance is characterized by things like network effects or similar. Google, despite being willing to use anticompetitive tactics, hasn't really successfully built much of a moat.

Bing didn't do it since at the time, everyone liked Google and hated Microsoft, and Google was an epsilon better.

Today, Google doesn't have that do-no-evil reputation, and it's hard to know what would happen.

Re: Yahoo Groups is closing down

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Post by zabouti »

howlgarnish wrote: post #3

The writing's been on the wall for a while: this was first announced last year, then postponed, and the online UI was already shut down in February 2020. Completely boneheaded move in that it removes the last reason many people like myself would ever even stumble into a Yahoo site, but then again, Yahoo Groups's SEO visibility is also near-zero these days, and I figure the beancounters at Yahoo computed that this is…

Could you explain more about this "Basic" free tier? When I go to https://groups.io/static/pricing, I see a free 30-day account, after which it becomes $20/month. You're not the first person who has said there's a free plan at groups.io but I don't seem able to get one myself. Have their plans changed recently?

Re: Yahoo Groups is closing down

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Post by gogopuppygogo »

bpyne wrote: post #57
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yahoo is such a weird company in that it does so much yet it doesn't have the mindshare. Maybe it's a completely different generation still using it, I don't know.

It's amazingly difficult to get away from. For those of us who had Yahoo email accounts, trying to get people to stop emailing them is a slow drawn out process. My wife and I switched to Gmail accounts at least 5 years ago. We still get friends and relatives sending to our Yahoo accounts. This, despite multiple requests to stop. People seem to either reply all on old messages whenever they want to contact us or copy/…

I’ve always owned (for over 20 years) a personal domain for this very reason. I can point the mail anywhere.

Re: Yahoo Groups is closing down

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Post by zabouti »

raphlinus wrote: post #7
howlgarnish wrote: post #3

The writing's been on the wall for a while: this was first announced last year, then postponed, and the online UI was already shut down in February 2020. Completely boneheaded move in that it removes the last reason many people like myself would ever even stumble into a Yahoo site, but then again, Yahoo Groups's SEO visibility is also near-zero these days, and I figure the beancounters at Yahoo computed that this is…

I can second this recommendation. Our Quaker Meeting was on Yahoo Groups for 12 years, but we also saw the clear signs that it was going to shut down, so migrated to groups.io a few months ago. Generally it's been quite smooth. It took a while for the moderators to figure out the reply policy settings we needed, but now it's pretty nicely tuned. (I was only tangentially involved, I'm on the committee but am responsib…

Does your Quaker Meeting pay for groups.io? Their website seems to say that the cheapest plan is $20/month, too much for my group to afford. Thanks.

Re: Yahoo Groups is closing down

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Post by bpyne »

gogopuppygogo wrote: post #83
bpyne wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amazingly difficult to get away from. For those of us who had Yahoo email accounts, trying to get people to stop emailing them is a slow drawn out process. My wife and I switched to Gmail accounts at least 5 years ago. We still get friends and relatives sending to our Yahoo accounts. This, despite multiple requests to stop. People seem to either reply all on old messages whenever they want to contact us or copy/…

I’ve always owned (for over 20 years) a personal domain for this very reason. I can point the mail anywhere.

Interesting. Does the domain setup forward to your web mail account?

Re: Yahoo Groups is closing down

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Post by raybb »

zabouti wrote: post #82
howlgarnish wrote: post #3

The writing's been on the wall for a while: this was first announced last year, then postponed, and the online UI was already shut down in February 2020. Completely boneheaded move in that it removes the last reason many people like myself would ever even stumble into a Yahoo site, but then again, Yahoo Groups's SEO visibility is also near-zero these days, and I figure the beancounters at Yahoo computed that this is…

Could you explain more about this "Basic" free tier? When I go to https://groups.io/static/pricing , I see a free 30-day account, after which it becomes $20/month. You're not the first person who has said there's a free plan at groups.io but I don't seem able to get one myself. Have their plans changed recently?

Scroll down or ctrl + F "free"

It's just lower down the page

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