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Re: HomePod Mini

#81

Post by lern_too_spel »

hello_friendos wrote: post #50
Grazester wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean the Google, Amazon and Apple spy systems? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/26/apple-con...

That article is over a year old and Apple does not allow this anymore. Of course Google and Amazon still do. https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/28/20836760/apple-apology-si...

Google also doesn't retain audio recordings by default and hasn't for longer than Apple hasn't. https://www.blog.google/products/assistant/doing-more-protec...

Apple is consistently worse on privacy than alternatives. Don't let them get away with it, or everybody will play Apple's game of just pretending that they care about privacy.

Re: HomePod Mini

#82

Post by bouke »

tunesmith wrote: post #79

There are no power cords in any of the images I've found yet.

In the presentation there’s a cable when it’s placed on the kitchen’s counter. But other than that the lack of cables caught my eye as well!

Re: HomePod Mini

#83

Post by brundolf »

I was tempted, but my partner has an Android and I'm pretty sure these can't even function as a basic Bluetooth speaker for non-Apple devices, so unfortunately it's a no-go. Apple got this right with AirPods: special integration with other Apple devices, but basic functionality with everything. Hopefully they will with these too one day.

Re: HomePod Mini

#84

Post by kitsunesoba »

thomasfl wrote: post #47

No Spotify support. Spotify’s market share is probably so large that Apple will sell fever of this speakers because of that.

The APIs required for Spotify to support HomePod are available, but as usual Spotify has yet to take advantage of them.

Re: HomePod Mini

#85

Post by lern_too_spel »

Nextgrid wrote: post #34
actuator wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google and Amazon spy systems I have only used an Echo in the past but fwiw Google does specify what they store and how they use it. https://store.google.com/magazine/google_nest_privacy

Why would you trust a company whose bottom line ultimately depends on spying on everyone, in a regulatory environment which demonstrated that breaching your own promises/privacy policy (in the case of Facebook and the 2FA phone numbers they promised not to use for ad targeting purposes) results in nothing more than a slap on the wrist?

Because the alternative (Apple) is a company that produces worse products that breach my privacy even more. You cannot get your location on an Apple device without also sending your location to Apple. You cannot install an app on your iOS device without telling Apple. If you want to make your own apps for your device, you have to deanonymize yourself even further with banking details.

If you want better privacy, don't continue to let companies who lie about providing better privacy get away with it. So far, I haven't seen Google deliberately lie about the privacy of their services. That should be the bare minimum that we expect.

Re: HomePod Mini

#86

Post by import »

ValentineC wrote: post #66

It doesn't look like the HomePod Mini would support Bluetooth devices as an audio source [1] (the older HomePod has the same issue), even though it lists Bluetooth 5.0 as a connectivity option. [1] https://www.apple.com/homepod-mini/specs/#specs:~:text=Audio... [2] https://www.apple.com/homepod-mini/specs/#specs:~:text=Wirel...

Bluetooth used for Homekit stuff IMO.

Re: HomePod Mini

#87

Post by ogre_codes »

buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #36
mttjj wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comparison table makes is seem like the mini can't be paired with an AppleTV at all like the regular HomePod can.

> Pick up an incoming call from your iPhone, listen to music on your Mac, or upgrade your TV experience by taking the sound from your Apple TV to the next level — they all connect to HomePod mini. From the Apple website

Apple's site is a bit contradictory on this. In another place it lists speaker features and it lists "Home theater with Apple TV 4K" as a feature of the full size HomePod but not the mini.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Re: HomePod Mini

#88

Post by millstone »

mmastrac wrote: post #3

Curious how much market share this homepod line has. My gut feel is that Amazon has the lion's share, followed by Google and everyone else has crumbs at the bottom.

I think it is best to understand this as two different markets. Amazon Echo and Google Home devices are mainly about their smart assistants. Homepod is for music, and it competes more directly with Sonos devices.

Re: HomePod Mini

#89

Post by Bud »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #81
hello_friendos wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That article is over a year old and Apple does not allow this anymore. Of course Google and Amazon still do. https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/28/20836760/apple-apology-si...

Google also doesn't retain audio recordings by default and hasn't for longer than Apple hasn't. https://www.blog.google/products/assistant/doing-more-protec... Apple is consistently worse on privacy than alternatives. Don't let them get away with it, or everybody will play Apple's game of just pretending that they care about privacy.

Apple is consistently better on privacy, actually, than competitors. Not sure which competitors you are talking about or which issues/products, but you're way, way off-base. And for obvious reasons: Amazon and Google need to gather user data to survive because they don't make any profitable hardware. Apple doesn't need your data, plus, they have a real and honest commitment to privacy.

It's not even a close call, really.

Re: HomePod Mini

#90

Post by Bud »

thomasfl wrote: post #47

No Spotify support. Spotify’s market share is probably so large that Apple will sell fever of this speakers because of that.

Not having Spotify is a feature.
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