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Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by shaan7 »

viseztrance wrote: post #63
laszlokorte wrote: post #56

Sorry for the snarky comment but that you can clearly see the promoted KRunner search box flickering and reflowing in the promotional video is exemplary for the quality differences between mac, windows and linux desktop environments.

Honestly KDE has always been this way, adding features over polish. For example I used gnome shell and mac os back to back and gnome holds up very well against mac os, and if anything it feels like a more cohesive experience (consistent hotkeys, ui).

Yep that is the beauty of having alternatives :) Ideally I'd have a DE which is polished and has features that I need. Unfortunately there's nothing (macOS, Windows included) that does both, so we choose our poison.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by detaro »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #78
kuschku wrote: post #50

I’ve been using Plasma for years, but after this release talking so much about the wayland improvements, the actual result is more than disappointing. First, to explain my setup: I've got a Dell UP2718Q in landscape, 3840x2160, 10-bit in DCI-P3 colorspace at 1.5x scale at 60Hz, side-by-side with a Fujitsu Siemens P17-2 in portrait, 1024x1280, 8-bit in sRGB colorspace at 1x scale at 75Hz 10-bit support isn’t there yet…

Maybe a stupid question, but why? If you care about high resolution and good colors why are you keeping the low res second monitor? If you don't care about hires, why not simply set the Dell one to a lower resolution and not worry about scaling at all?

Because having extra screenspace to keep docs/chat/... on is nice and an old screen is good enough for that?

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by teekert »

brylie wrote: post #71
teekert wrote: post #64

Man, my entire life I've been going back and forth between Gnome and KDE, I just settled (again) on stock Ubuntu (for some months now) but now that I see this video and the grass looks greener, again. Guess I'm installing KDE Neon tonight... Edit, I have to say that for the kids I'll stay on Gnome, it's very recognizable for them when compared to the iPads they use at school, much more so than KDE (and Win10 for that…

I recently decided to give stock Ubuntu with Gnome a try, coming from KDE. After about two weeks of missing some of the simple pleasures of KDE, like being able to right-click in the file browser to create a new file or resizing windows to the left/right side of the window with Meta-left/right (which is somehow buggy in Gnome), I landed back in KDE-land with Neon. I briefly toyed with the idea of Manjaro, but am not…

Usually small things get to me like, Kmail won't keep my emails de-collapsed, or Kwin puts a border around Firefox so my tabs are not at the top and I have to aim (true for Gnome also btw), same goes for VScode. Or I want to use git over sshfs but KDE uses kioslaves and not gvfs so it's not a normal FS if you mount ssh in dolphin. Stuff like that.

Gnome usually make me miss some configuration options or they remove them. But as I grow older I get better at accepting defaults and I think Gnome will capture me once and for all soon. I do like how Ubuntu looks ootb (I only set dark theme, autohide the panel and keep 4 virtual desktop at all times (normally they are removed when empty)).

Sometimes I choose Mate (similar to XFCE I guess). I like it a lot but it just doesn't look that good (ark-darker makes it better).

I do like change every now and then.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by brnt »

vvillena wrote: post #42
swebs wrote: post #25

So how do I install it on Ubuntu?

KDE is probably too much of a core package to install, unless you are doing for the fun of it. The best way would be to wait until Ubuntu ships it in its next release.

KDE Neon is what youre looking for.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by brnt »

Although perhaps not part of Plasma does anyone know why certain regressions in Kmail are not addressed? Things like reply to all by default were removed as a prefernce and there seems to be no discussion on that possible. What gives? Kmail is very powerful and deserves much wider use, but somehow a group has managed to take charge of the project and is keeping defaults suited for 90ies style clients and is actively removing preferences that fit with more modern (outlookish/gmailish) UX.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by vanderZwan »

mpol wrote: post #54
vanderZwan wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, I'm running KDE Neon (the "stable" version, insofar as there is one) where everything is supposed to "just work" and even there I got a really dumb dependency error this morning[0] that lead to KWIN almost automatically uninstalling itself to "fix" the problem. This has happened a few times in the last months - including the desktop wanting to uninstall itself. Of course I know how to behave in tha…

To be fair, that is not "the desktop wanting to uninstall itself", as if it is a problem in Plasma, but it is the package manager wanting to uninstall the desktop. It seems to be a problem with the Ubuntu packages. If the same thing happened a few times, maybe it is time for a bugreport at Ubuntu.

I meant "the KDE Desktop Package", but your point stands, thanks

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by Denvercoder9 »

Aardwolf wrote: post #35
jankotek wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KDE is quite good at customizing this stuff. You can pin documents and windows to Workspace or Activity. It even remembers this config between sessions.

Are you sure KDE is that good at customizing stuff? I hated the fact that it displays a huge speaker icon in the middle of the screen whenever adjusting volume, I know I adjust volume, I don't need to see it in the middle of the screen every time, this is a productivity computer, not a television. The only way I found to disable that behavior was to change some javascript code somewhere within KDE. But everytime I up…

> There's no normal setting or config file to turn it off...

There is now (and the default is a smaller popup as well).

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by ashton314 »

Ugh! KDE is so pretty and so configurable except in the one way that I really need: I need an easy way to set Emacs-style keystrokes globally. Do this and I’m sold forever.

(That aside, very exciting update!)

Is there anything like Karabiner or AutoHotKey for KDE that lets you download predefined keyboard shortcuts?

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by criddell »

neves wrote: post #41

I has been a decade since I used KDE. It was eating too much memory of slow computer. I always missed a desktop environment for power users, instead of one aiming for the average user. Kde always the best one with this objective

> I always missed a desktop environment for power users, instead of one aiming for the average user.

What types of things make a big difference for you?

When I sit at my computer, it's to do something in an application. The desktop environment doesn't do much for me once I've launched the program that I'm actually there to use, does it? I'm generally pretty happy in Ubuntu or Windows or macOS or iPadOS.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by brmgb »

I don't understand why the KDE teams let so many padding and alignment issues go through each release. Some of them are particularly jarring. For example, if you look at the screenshot of the system settings in the announcement, the pictures with two lines of subtext are above the ones with only one line despite them being the same size. It might seem minor but the situation repeats everywhere.

I understand it might not be a priority of the project but it leaves me with the feeling of something left unfinished and makes KDE completely unusable for me.

Edit: I feel like I need to edit my post because I am unnecessarily negative. Fixing the visual might actually be a huge task and I think KDE is getting better every release. A huge thank you to the team for the effort they pour into developing free software.

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