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Virgin Hyperloop picks West Virginia to test high-speed transport system

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Re: Virgin Hyperloop picks West Virginia to test high-speed transport system

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I have to be honest, whenever I read a tech company with the name 'Virgin' in front, I believe that will spend huge amounts of money and not achieve much. Virgin Galactic and Vrigin Orbit are both burning huge amount of money and have really not achieved much in relation to the amount spend. However they are always big in the media and Branson is always mentioned along side of Elon Musk. As if Virgin Orbit and SpaceX…

I don't know about Virgin Orbit, but isn't Virgin Galactic actively testing their aircraft for space flights? [1] I think it's a bit of a stretch to either call them a scam or argue that they didn't achieve much. This area has so many regulations it takes decades to innovate and go from idea to market. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceShipTwo

They are suborbital, while this is certainty an achievement its also far more limited in value and market. They have existed for a very, very long time. They have done the first test flights a long time ago now and have for years promised to be operational.

The problem is this, the amount of money they are spending is essentially impossible to make back with suborbital tourism, even if NASA helps them out with some extra flights.

The have a large team and they have burned threw 100s of millions to get to this point and there is still no clear schedule. The continue to make flashy media events showing of seats and designs and so on.

At the same time, their public stock price is incredibly high. To get it there, they seem to imply that they are gone develop hypersonic transport. Hypersonic transport is much, much, much harder then what they are doing so far, and they have struggled mightily for a long time to even get the engine to the point where it is now.

Re: Virgin Hyperloop picks West Virginia to test high-speed transport system

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Hyperloop sounds like a bunch of hype. High speed trains are a thing already, as are MagLev trains, as are trains that go through tunnels, called the subway. The lack of their success in the US market has little to do with the technology itself and more to do with politics. The addition of vacuum tunnels does little to alleviate the administrative / financial challenges of our struggling train systems. Vacuum has few…

The point of Hyperloop is to provide a shiny new technology that municipalities can use as an excuse for not investing in public transportation, ensuring that America switches to electric cars instead trains/buses/trams/bikes/etc as ICE automobiles are phased out over the next 20 years.

As in the US the majority of people don't demand public transport, I don't see why municipalities would need an excuse. Outside of nerd circles the hyperloop is rally not even very well known so I don't even understand how that would make sense.

And 'the point' of Hyperloop certainty never was that, that is just conspiracy nonsense by people who are bitter that most people don't share their opinion. The most you could say is that 'hyperloop has been abused by XY people to avoid investing in public transport' but I have not seen a single piece of evidence for that.

Are you really so cynical that every new technology that you don't like, is instantly put to 'ah this is a conspiracy to prevent adoption of what I like'.

Re: Virgin Hyperloop picks West Virginia to test high-speed transport system

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

See my comment above. An elevated (or submerged) tube with rails (or a track) inside cannot be less expensive than those rails or track elevated (or submerged) alone. I get the pipeline metaphor, but a pipeline with infrastructure inside is just infrastructure + pipeline. So instead of a train system the proposal has always been to build a train system inside a pipeline, which has to be more expensive than either. We…

I agree, though in city, it would be cheaper to use air rights than on the ground or underground.

It never works that way - agencies have tried with elevated systems for a century. You have to buy the land.
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