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Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear

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Post by kortilla »

actuator wrote: post #61
echelon wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(Of course you got downvoted...) How can Apple be, 1. An operating system and business software company 2. A cell phone company 3. An exclusive marketplace for apps 4. A movie studio and streaming service 5. A music studio and streaming service 6. A hardware company whose products predominantly work with and favor other Apple branded hardware 7. ... How can Google, Amazon, and Apple all do this? Pretty soon they're g…

You nailed it so well in this comment, I have been pointing out this from when they launched Apple Music. The classic excuse which people hide behind is "but they don't have a monopoly". Sure, they don't have a monopoly in precise terms. But the power they have to push products in new verticals is just unfair to the competition as they can't compete on equal terms. Jabra's parent company in total earns less than 10%…

Apple AirPods wouldn’t have sold so well if the existing Bluetooth headphone space wasn’t such trash. AirPods isn’t a great example because the product was so much better than anything else out there in the same category (ear buds).

Maybe a better example would have been Apple Music?

Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear

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Post by gurkendoktor »

sjwright wrote: post #47
ksec wrote: post #41

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I actually have no problem with them being a 1-3, I just dont understand why they had to do 4 and 5. Music was understandable given there are no Streaming Music alternative other than Spotify. ( But Apple Music still sucks after so many years, and barely caught on to Spotify ). But Making Apple Originals? Pouring Billions into it? And Apple Card? Yes I think Banking and Finance will be there soon. If they have some s…

Apple Music is mostly a holdover from the decade of the iPod and iTunes Music Store. They already had a strong market position and it would have been capitalist suicide to abandon it wholesale. I don't agree that it sucks compared to Spotify, but it does cater to a different audience, preferring curation over algorithms. Apple TV+ is indeed a curious one. Personally I think it's as simple as being a placeholder to al…

> Apple TV+ is indeed a curious one.

It makes the Apple One bundles seem larger than they actually are.

Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear

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Post by Tarq0n »

ebg13 wrote: post #26
thinkingkong wrote: post #9

Bose had to have seen this coming. The patent on noise cancelling expired and now its a free for all. Plus, its apples store. Every item would have been listed at apples sole discretion.

My Bose headphones are miles more comfortable and more effective at active noice cancellation than the best Apple Beats. Will that change? Maybe. I mean...I hope so. It's hard having only Bose and Sony credibly competing in the wireless over-the-ear ANC space. It would be really nice to be able to get away from the crap bluetooth scourge like AirPods kinda sorta started doing with their W and H series chips.

Sennheiser's and B&O's offerings are good as well. They just don't have the same marketing power behind them as Sony.

Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear

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Post by Angostura »

croissants wrote: post #2

Is "quietly" really the appropriate word here? Do stores typically put out announcements when they stop stocking certain products? If not, "quietly" just seems to be a way to create an air of vague menace and treachery without saying it.

I don't think it's there to create an air of menace of treachery, but rather a sense of intrigue - which is appropriate, because it is intriguing.

Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear

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Post by rob74 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #50
AmericanChopper wrote: post #49

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This sounds like exactly the sort of vague menace the headline is designed to drum up. Nobody is captive to the Apple store. There is literally thousands of other places anybody could buy peripherals from. And if you’ve spent much time looking at what they stock, you might notice that Apple tends to stock more peripherals in the categories that it’s not very good at making in house, so the exact opposite inference co…

Adding the word "quietly" screams clickbait to me. I guess they have to earn their money too, so it's just part of the world now.

Well, it's a headline, and making headlines sound more interesting is what newspapers have done for centuries, well before clicking on links was a thing. And the word "quietly" is fully justified, because Apple didn't announce that it was removing these items. So, it's only "borderline clickbait" in my opinion...

Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear

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Post by trasz »

philliphaydon wrote: post #40
ebg13 wrote: post #26

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My Bose headphones are miles more comfortable and more effective at active noice cancellation than the best Apple Beats. Will that change? Maybe. I mean...I hope so. It's hard having only Bose and Sony credibly competing in the wireless over-the-ear ANC space. It would be really nice to be able to get away from the crap bluetooth scourge like AirPods kinda sorta started doing with their W and H series chips.

But Apple Beats are poor quality to begin with, it's just got Dre's name associated to it to make them expensive. Most major brands are better than beats by a long shot. However, most brands are beginning to cheap out IMO. I had a pair of sennheiser headphones back in like ~2005, they lasted like 11 years before the cups started to fall apart. I replaced them with a new pair of sennheiser which lasted ~12 months befo…

That’s one of the nice things with eg Beyerdynamic - even if you somehow managed to break them, you probably could just weld them back.

Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear

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Post by TaylorAlexander »

notJim wrote: post #45
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #44

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I was blown away when I found out they don’t work as a simple AUX device. My friend has homepods but she was using TV speakers because they can’t accept TV audio. She said it kind of works with Apple TV but audio sync is an issue and that still leaves out things like Nintendo Switch games or movies played off a laptop. Crazy to me that they don’t have AUX in. She recently got a pair of $130 powered speakers from amaz…

That's not really what this type of speaker is for. It's more a speaker for your bedroom or kitchen that you use from your phone or via voice. My Sonos One doesn't have Aux in either, although some of the other speakers do.

Idk, it’s a $300 high end speaker and they could have made it more useful with one simple universal jack. Someone is going to spend all that money and then need a second speaker because of the missing jack. The smart features should add to the device without taking away IMO. I mean it’s just crazy to me. She had $600 worth of speakers with great sound and we could not hook up our own source. It meant that they couldn’t actually be the only speakers she had and significantly reduced their overall value to us. Apple loves to do that I know, but it is a very opinionated design choice and it’s not for me.

Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear

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Post by actuator »

kortilla wrote: post #81
actuator wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You nailed it so well in this comment, I have been pointing out this from when they launched Apple Music. The classic excuse which people hide behind is "but they don't have a monopoly". Sure, they don't have a monopoly in precise terms. But the power they have to push products in new verticals is just unfair to the competition as they can't compete on equal terms. Jabra's parent company in total earns less than 10%…

Apple AirPods wouldn’t have sold so well if the existing Bluetooth headphone space wasn’t such trash. AirPods isn’t a great example because the product was so much better than anything else out there in the same category (ear buds). Maybe a better example would have been Apple Music?

I am not a fan of earpod form factor at all but Jabra's wireless earphones are rated better by many sites like Wirecutter and at least I find the sound quality of Jabra much better.

Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear

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Post by dzhiurgis »

notJim wrote: post #45
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was blown away when I found out they don’t work as a simple AUX device. My friend has homepods but she was using TV speakers because they can’t accept TV audio. She said it kind of works with Apple TV but audio sync is an issue and that still leaves out things like Nintendo Switch games or movies played off a laptop. Crazy to me that they don’t have AUX in. She recently got a pair of $130 powered speakers from amaz…

That's not really what this type of speaker is for. It's more a speaker for your bedroom or kitchen that you use from your phone or via voice. My Sonos One doesn't have Aux in either, although some of the other speakers do.

Let's not forget it has no bluetooth which means no android and no windows. Pathetic.

Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear

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Post by magma17 »

croissants wrote: post #2

Is "quietly" really the appropriate word here? Do stores typically put out announcements when they stop stocking certain products? If not, "quietly" just seems to be a way to create an air of vague menace and treachery without saying it.

yes it is appropriate because it's a failure.
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