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Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

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Post by kzrdude »

Arathorn wrote: post #21
varbhat wrote: post #11

So, how long will it take (approximate) to complete the mentioned process ? Also, I think that matrix ecosystem will grow from this move.

We hope to get Gitter natively speaking Matrix in the coming months. It'll probably be a year or so before Element has feature parity with Gitter though :)

Sounds like an optimistic plan.

(Note: I've never used gitter. Registering on another funky and closed chat platform was never a hurdle I managed to jump over. Going for matrix sounds awesome, I have an identity there.)

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

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Post by Ericson2314 »

Arathorn wrote: post #77
jrochkind1 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right. The point is, if a competitor who was a for-profit company was willing to federate with Element, as a first-party contributor not just reluctantly "I guess you can use our integration API's for that and we won't stop you... yet" -- that would be watershed moment in hopes of federation/integration instead of silos being a thing. That is indeed not what happened. It's just an acquisition. It does not actually gi…

The Matrix.org blog post isn’t really me trying to wave a hand over it - it’s just that the Element, Gitter and GitLab ( https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2020/09/30/gitter-moves-to-ele... ) and Changelog stories fixate on it being an acquisition, and I wanted to dwell on the impact for Matrix. The reality is that bridging a big existing network is a significant undertaking and nobody has done it before (other than possi…

Slack and Discord need their walled gardens to justify their current state, but low-growth things like Mattermost should federate with little to loose.

My most-realistic dream is for Freenode to be Matrix by default with the IRC interface just for clients.

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

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Post by Avamander »

adsjhdashkj wrote: post #24

Can anyone comment on the state of UX with Element these days? I'm changing to Linux/Windows from Mac, so i'm dumping iMessage - but i'm not convinced Signal has a good enough UX to keep me and my family happy. Sidenote, i love how i can pay Element and support Matrix/Element.

Still not good, confusing and not very fast. Like Keybase four years ago. They have some catching up to do and I hope they do it before Keybase is shut down.

If a Riot contributor is reading this comment, go try Keybase out while you still can, there are things it does well.

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

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Post by louib »

TooCreative wrote: post #39

I really like to use IRC on the terminal via Irssi. Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing? If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos? Or maybe someone could just make an IRC server which is a bridge to matrix?

There's a weechat plugin for matrix that's being actively developed here https://github.com/poljar/weechat-matrix-rs.

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

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Post by this_user »

TooCreative wrote: post #39

I really like to use IRC on the terminal via Irssi. Can Irssi be used to access this matrix thing? If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos? Or maybe someone could just make an IRC server which is a bridge to matrix?

> If not, is there some nice matrix command line client in the Debian repos?

There is the gomuks client (https://github.com/tulir/gomuks) for the command line. I'm not sure about the Debian package, though.

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

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Post by kuon »

I really like matrix, but there is one important feature missing : threads.

Once threads will be implemented, I am sure matrix will grow a lot more, especially inside enterprises.

I hope the merge will help with that. Best of luck both teams.

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

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Post by StavrosK »

Arathorn wrote: post #8
lhoff wrote: post #6

It is not obvious from the title but Element is actually acquiring Gitter. Quote from the article: > In practice, the way this is happening is that Element (the company founded by the Matrix core team to fund Matrix development) is acquiring Gitter from GitLab, with a combined Gitter and Element dev team focusing on giving Gitter a new life in Matrix! There is also another blogpost from the elements side https://elem…

Well, the main news is that Gitter is going to natively join Matrix. We've been talking about doing this for a few years, but it never got to the top of the todo list on either side - plus frankly we're breaking new ground by making a large existing network natively speak Matrix (complete with incorporating room archives, etc). Others (e.g. Rocket.Chat) have had a go at natively speaking Matrix but it's hard to be th…

Please, please fix the years-old notification bug where you can't turn off email notifications for every single comment without leaving the channel.

"Only email me when I'm mentioned" actually emails you for every message instead.

Re: Gitter is joining Matrix

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Post by StavrosK »

randtrain34 wrote: post #7

> Our plan is instead to merge Gitter’s features into Element (or next generations of Element) itself and then - if and only if Element has achieved parity with Gitter based on the above list - we expect to upgrade the deployment on gitter.im to a Gitter-customised version of Element. The inevitable side-effect is that we’ll be adding new features to Element rather than Gitter going forwards. Wonder what existing Git…

I am ecstatic. The Element Android client is quite good and getting better, and I'd love to be able to access gitter from that.
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