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Not if it results in them becoming a burden on society, both financially and socially.
Does it necessarily? Was Paul Erdös a burden on society, both financially and socially? Are people who have handicaps because of sporting accidents not a financial burden on society, should we outlaw Snowboarding?
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No. We live in a society. If I'm expected to help pick up the pieces when you self-destruct, it's absolutely my business.
You're doing that right now, with your tax dollars. It cost $81,203 _per year_ to house just one inmate in California[0]. I understand punishing sellers, but I think the punishments for drug charges (and most charges in the US), are so draconian. 1 Year in prison for this guy should be enough. From what I've heard, prison is terrible, people do not want to spend 1 day in prison. There is absolutely nothing he will le…
Hopefully there's a satisfactory middle ground between "locked up in harsh conditions for years" and "ain't nobody's business if you do".
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What people put into their bodies is their own business.
No. We live in a society. If I'm expected to help pick up the pieces when you self-destruct, it's absolutely my business.
It may sound cold but at least you don't have to steal money from all the people who actually create value and you don't have to pay for bureaucracy
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I personally want drug-dealing gun-wielding ex-felons to be put in prison. Plus he only got 5 years, which isn't a long sentence in the US.
I personally don’t want somebody supplying goods to customers who want them, coming together in a consensual transaction jailed. Where one person then decides to alter their own brain chemistry with their own consent. 5 years not long? Ok.
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I personally want drug-dealing gun-wielding ex-felons to be put in prison. Plus he only got 5 years, which isn't a long sentence in the US.
In Finland manslaughter is maximum 6 years in prison. This guy sold plants.
What a colossal waste of time. Prosecuting someone for selling online something that is illegal in a lot of states. Mindblowing how stupid the war on drugs is.
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This has nothing to do with an abstract notion of morality. In our society, we look out for each other, if somebody is in distress, e.g. hurt on the side of the road, we help him, call an ambulance, he gets medical help. The fact that society makes huge efforts to save and cure people requiring medical attention, is at the root of the taboo on substances (or behaviors) that are unhealthy. Otherwise that would be a pu…
Yes, this is correct. I also don’t want my children to take drugs, and when you make things widely available, people use them more. You don’t have to look further than the opioid crisis to see that.
People in the Netherlands don't get stoned everyday just because they can.
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Yes, this is correct. I also don’t want my children to take drugs, and when you make things widely available, people use them more. You don’t have to look further than the opioid crisis to see that.
So perhaps you should teach them not to use drugs instead of trying to control what other people are allowed to put into their own bodies.
What a colossal waste of time. Prosecuting someone for selling online something that is illegal in a lot of states. Mindblowing how stupid the war on drugs is.
I can partially understand that point of view for marijuana (though I think it’s important for a functional society to obey laws, and get them changed if they aren’t working instead of just breaking them based on personal preference). But the guy had been selling methamphetamine too, which is life destroying poison. Our government provides costly services for people who are incapable of taking care of themselves, and…
I think as a society it is worth talking about limiting activities that are a net drain on society (and not just on health - also credit cards, advertising, the lottery, and much more). We don't do that, though. Instead we crack down extremely harshly on a small subsection, and completely ignore the rest.