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Re: We made an open source ESP8266 dev board for makers

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I built something like this but more special-purpose. It just switches a USB-A power source on/off. I wanted it to control my 5-volt fish-tank lights. I didn't want to use a 120VAC smart switch for each light because I prefer to use a single USB hub to power them all, and a bonus feature was being able to PWM the lights so the fish aren't freaked out when the lights suddenly turn on 100% in the morning. I ordered PCB…

I am sure this is something will be able to answer: I need to build a custom board for an ESP32 which should support low-power deep sleep and which should contain some additional circuitry (is that what you call it?) to drive an Eink display. Basically this[1] board, but a different shape and better low-power sleep properties. If I wanted to design this board myself, how long would it take to learn this? Are there go…

Have you already made the circuit on a breadboard? If so, learning KiCAD and building the board from scratch would take around a week of afternoons.

I really recommend it, designing PCBs is very enjoyable (at least to me).

Re: We made an open source ESP8266 dev board for makers

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I am sure this is something will be able to answer: I need to build a custom board for an ESP32 which should support low-power deep sleep and which should contain some additional circuitry (is that what you call it?) to drive an Eink display. Basically this[1] board, but a different shape and better low-power sleep properties. If I wanted to design this board myself, how long would it take to learn this? Are there go…

Have you already made the circuit on a breadboard? If so, learning KiCAD and building the board from scratch would take around a week of afternoons. I really recommend it, designing PCBs is very enjoyable (at least to me).

How would I work with SMD components on a breadboard?

Re: We made an open source ESP8266 dev board for makers

#83

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Have you already made the circuit on a breadboard? If so, learning KiCAD and building the board from scratch would take around a week of afternoons. I really recommend it, designing PCBs is very enjoyable (at least to me).

How would I work with SMD components on a breadboard?

Breakout boards, I assume.

Re: We made an open source ESP8266 dev board for makers

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I wonder how the folks that sell on Tindie get around this... https://www.tindie.com/

There are various exemptions for subassemblies and other non-end-user products. Those may not always apply. However, in practice, a product that's sold in small quantities and does not in fact emit egregious electromagnetic interference is unlikely to attract enforcement attention. So a fair bit of skirting of the rules does go on.

Based on the PAL project and WiFi capability, I think the ESP8266 does emit electromagnetic radiation. Whether it's interference or a feature depends on your perspective.

Re: We made an open source ESP8266 dev board for makers

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This is the exact reason why I didn't see through my plan to build and sell the EspUSB (a very small ESP board that fits inside a USB-A port). I got 3 units built for myself by PCBWay at a cost of $77. I got quotes of ~$500 for 100 units from Elecrow and Makerfabs, but didn't know what to do with the other 90. Although I really want this great little gadget to be easily available, I can't afford $10,000 for FCC certi…

What about using a pre-certified module (eg. Wroom-02 or wroom32)

Because it won't fit inside a USB port any more.

Re: We made an open source ESP8266 dev board for makers

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This is the exact reason why I didn't see through my plan to build and sell the EspUSB (a very small ESP board that fits inside a USB-A port). I got 3 units built for myself by PCBWay at a cost of $77. I got quotes of ~$500 for 100 units from Elecrow and Makerfabs, but didn't know what to do with the other 90. Although I really want this great little gadget to be easily available, I can't afford $10,000 for FCC certi…

> I can't afford $10,000 for FCC certification, and therefore I have no solution. That's not how it work. You start by selling them, prove the concept, and when you have the money, you sort out certifications & whatsnot. You won't become a unicorn if you think about doing everything _by_the_book_ from day one.

I have enough legal trouble just trying to get a work visa. I'd rather not risk criminal charges, deportation, or worse for a hobby project.

Re: We made an open source ESP8266 dev board for makers

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Have you already made the circuit on a breadboard? If so, learning KiCAD and building the board from scratch would take around a week of afternoons. I really recommend it, designing PCBs is very enjoyable (at least to me).

How would I work with SMD components on a breadboard?

Either breakout boards or you use the through-hole versions.

Re: We made an open source ESP8266 dev board for makers

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post #51

I built something like this but more special-purpose. It just switches a USB-A power source on/off. I wanted it to control my 5-volt fish-tank lights. I didn't want to use a 120VAC smart switch for each light because I prefer to use a single USB hub to power them all, and a bonus feature was being able to PWM the lights so the fish aren't freaked out when the lights suddenly turn on 100% in the morning. I ordered PCB…

I am sure this is something will be able to answer: I need to build a custom board for an ESP32 which should support low-power deep sleep and which should contain some additional circuitry (is that what you call it?) to drive an Eink display. Basically this[1] board, but a different shape and better low-power sleep properties. If I wanted to design this board myself, how long would it take to learn this? Are there go…

Paying someone to do it is probably 200$ to 300$ on Fiverr.

Re: We made an open source ESP8266 dev board for makers

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Yeah, I'm regretting getting the esp8266 not knowing of the esp32. Besides being a better device for basically the same price, it has better tooling from espressif.

Esp-idf is amazing . Esp8266 doesnt have flash encryption and secure boot. Esp32-s2 does though.

> Esp-idf is amazing .

I have the opposite experience. Sure, if you just need to adapt their examples a bit, it's quite smooth. But the documentation is horrendous! If you need to do anything non-trivial that isn't covered by examples, I found it very very hard to work with. The documentation barely exists and is written in poor English. Compare this to the documentation for ARM SDKs, for example! Night and day.

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