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Re: Apple Event 2020

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Step 1 of reducing your environmental impact is reducing your consumption. If Apple really cared about the environment, then they wouldn't encourage a new phone every year when a phone can last for 4 years. Reduce, reuse and recycle.

Mm that's the point of the trade-in program! They even did a whole video showing LIAM (I think), the robot that disassembles old iPhones so the parts can be reused in new iPhones. I can't find it these days because their website has gotten more and more full of information, but they used to have a page that specifically said they had a plan to eventually manufacture all iPhones from old iPhone parts. If you participa…

That's sort of the point I'm making. Reducing consumption comes before reusing and recycling.

"If you participate in Apple's trade-in programs, consumption isn't an issue."

If that's how you feel, then Apple's marketing has done its job of removing environmental concerns from your purchasing decision even though there is still a lot of waste in buying a new phone yearly.

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Do they encourage people to buy a new phone every year? I don't think most people get a new phone every year, hence the "is this worth the upgrade?" Conventionally speaking, most tech reviewers tend to suggest that the latest model usually isn't worth the upgrade if you have the last model, and only in some cases is it a compelling upgrade from two releases ago. Release a new phone every year isn't the same thing as…

Anecdotally, very few people I know get the newest phone. In fact, most of them tend to get second-hand phones that are at least a generation or two behind. That said, these are generally on the middle- to lower-middle-class individuals. I'm a geek and I could afford buying the latest phones, but in practice I almost always get a phone at least 2 generations behind. That said, looking at people in town, there's a sig…

If you sell your 1-year-old iPhone as soon as new ones are available, you maximize the secondhand sale price. After that, the value you can get will decrease. (The same is true of the value Apple gives for their trade-in programs.)

So in some sense, if you replace your phone as soon as a new one is available, you pay about 50% of the new phone's cost every year. So it's not quite as expensive as you'd think. (And yes, iPhones sell for a little over 50% of their purchase price after a year.)

Re: Apple Event 2020

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They came up with a new Apple Watch (Series 6) that measures blood oxygen content! If that actually works as advertised, this feels like enough of a reason to upgrade. My wife has Series 3 and I have Series 5, but I haven't seen a major difference between the two. Series 5 is slightly sleeker and smaller, but the updates didn't feel important enough for her to upgrade.

They've got to fix the battery life. I tried the apple watch earlier this year and returned it a couple of days later. After using a whoop (where I get 5 days of battery) the less than one day charge makes the product pointless.

Any word on battery life in the new model?

My expectation is each time the chip will be more efficient, but they can choose to use that on a brighter screen/more features, or better battery life.

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The real question the lady should have asked about what the watch can do is play songs from Spotify without your iPhone near you, like when you're running. Spoiler alert: You can't.

I have a series 3 and I got a beta from spotify to stream music, it worked with WiFi and the phone turned off. I haven't tried LTE as I haven't enabled that, but I suppose it should work fine.

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The real question the lady should have asked about what the watch can do is play songs from Spotify without your iPhone near you, like when you're running. Spoiler alert: You can't.

Pretty sure that's Spotify's fault, not Apple.

You are correct, Pandora's app does have offline support in the apple watch, and I just got a beta in spotify where I can stream music from wifi in the watch to a speaker with the phone turned off.

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Not true as of Watch OS 6, I believe. I'm referring to streaming via cellular. Not sure about playing offline via non-cellular though, I haven't looked into that.

I searched a bit - I think you're correct, and also offline support looks to be in beta in the Swedish version of Spotify, so maybe it's actually coming at some point.

I'm in Canada and I got a beta for wifi streaming from the watch, where did you find about the offline beta?

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It is very Apple to market a cost cutting move of not including power adapters with their products as an environmental decision. Like it certainly does help the environment, but does anyone actually believe that is the motivating factor?

They've spent a lot of money aggressively pursuing environmental concerns before many of their competitors (like renewable power, carbon neutrality, recycling programs, etc.). While I can appreciate the reduction in cost likely was a factor, I wouldn't doubt that the environmental aspect was also a genuine concern. Their ideal customer is somebody who upgrades devices frequently and then participates in the trade-in…

> While I can appreciate the reduction in cost likely was a factor

Another factor is the EU slowly closing down on their loopholes for nonstandard chargers. They are probably trying to minimize costs in preparation for the eventual reckoning (i.e. which production and packaging chains will have to be modified).

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