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Re: Microsoft Statement on TikTok

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Post by jhardy54 »

echelon wrote: post #51
ericmay wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the main issue is this: The US views Chinese social media apps as being able to spread criticism (and most likely propaganda) and the US can’t do likewise in China, so they’ll just not let Chinese social media companies operate in the US until that changes. There will be 0 official, influential Chinese social media companies operating in the US on a permanent basis until the CCP let’s US social media companie…

Have you seen the anti-US sentiment being stoked on TikTok among our nation's zoomers? " All buildings matter " and " all days in September matter " are just two recent memes from the past month. TikTok is doing a lot of harm to our national image. Zoomers that I know don't think it's important for the US to have a lead in tech and that we commit atrocities worse than China. It's pretty alarming that we're being mani…

> "All buildings matter" and "all days in September matter" are just two recent memes from the past month.

What do you think these mean? I'm confused at how you would read those words and think that it has anything to do with "national image".

Re: Microsoft Statement on TikTok

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Post by ericmay »

lowiqengineer wrote: post #74
ericmay wrote: post #55

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You’re probably right based on the amount of downvotes you’re getting. I don’t use TikTok or much in the way of social media, but if you’re saying it’s true, with a reasonable conjecture and you’re getting downvoted I think the probability of you being correct is increased. It’s not so much that you actually are right, but that you’re exposing a contrarian idea that doesn’t align with either CCP apologists or certain…

Are you advocating censorship? So much for the tolerant right!

Me? I voted for Obama both times, wanted Bernie to win the Democratic nomination both times, and will be voting for Biden this time around, albeit reluctantly.

Re: Microsoft Statement on TikTok

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Post by brandonmenc »

echelon wrote: post #51
ericmay wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the main issue is this: The US views Chinese social media apps as being able to spread criticism (and most likely propaganda) and the US can’t do likewise in China, so they’ll just not let Chinese social media companies operate in the US until that changes. There will be 0 official, influential Chinese social media companies operating in the US on a permanent basis until the CCP let’s US social media companie…

Have you seen the anti-US sentiment being stoked on TikTok among our nation's zoomers? " All buildings matter " and " all days in September matter " are just two recent memes from the past month. TikTok is doing a lot of harm to our national image. Zoomers that I know don't think it's important for the US to have a lead in tech and that we commit atrocities worse than China. It's pretty alarming that we're being mani…

It's not just Zoomers.

A significant number of my fellow American, Millennial friends want to see China overtake us in all areas including economic and military.

Partly because they believe we need to be punished, and partly because it shocks boomers.

Re: Microsoft Statement on TikTok

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Post by jml7c5 »

mistermann wrote: post #73
throw_m239339 wrote: post #60

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> There you have it. I've seen TikTok videos go viral being really critical of the US government including its foreign policy. The kind of video that would just be invisible or outright banned from Youtube or Facebook video. That's why they want to get rid of it. Videos such as? Seems to me that the kind of videos banned on Youtube, Twitter or Facebook aren't really the ones that are really critical of the US governm…

I'm not saying this went viral, but I did encounter it while just normally browsing TikTok. https://www.tiktok.com/@jperkinsauthor/video/686526224212490... I think the US has more than a few skeletons in its closet that they'd prefer remain there, so having a means of exerting control over popular platforms seems like plain old common sense.

The same sort of content (including many re-hosted videos) is available on his Twitter page, so I'm not sure this is evidence for anything.

Re: Microsoft Statement on TikTok

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Post by peacefulhat »

There's a Reuters article that claims the Chinese government prefers TikTok close US operations like in India than go through with a forced sale and asset transfer, and they're willing to use heavy-handed policy to make Bytedance do what they want. Makes sense. Acquisitions should not be made under the barrel of a gun from the US government. It will be very harmful to the Chinese economy if more companies are required to spinoff US operations.

Re: Microsoft Statement on TikTok

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Post by Marsymars »

smabie wrote: post #63
JonathanFly wrote: post #57

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>I think the main issue is this: >The US views Chinese social media apps as being able to spread criticism (and most likely propaganda) and the US can’t do likewise in China, so they’ll just not let Chinese social media companies operate in the US until that changes. Then why force them to sell to a US company specifically. Why wasn't Germany or any EU company with strong privacy laws allowed to buy them?

Like what company? No European company would make that acquisition. Europe doesn't even have any tech companies that are remotely as large as American tech.

SAP is on the same scale as Oracle and makes about as much sense.

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Post by ericmay »

Marsymars wrote: post #86
smabie wrote: post #63

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Like what company? No European company would make that acquisition. Europe doesn't even have any tech companies that are remotely as large as American tech.

SAP is on the same scale as Oracle and makes about as much sense.

Why didn’t they bid?

Re: Microsoft Statement on TikTok

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Post by chance_state »

patrickaljord wrote: post #20

> We are confident our proposal would have been good for TikTok’s users, while protecting national security interests Does anyone seriously believe TikTok is a threat to national security? > combatting disinformation There you have it. I've seen TikTok videos go viral being really critical of the US government including its foreign policy. The kind of video that would just be invisible or outright banned from Youtube…

> I've seen TikTok videos go viral being really critical of the US government including its foreign policy. The kind of video that would just be invisible or outright banned from Youtube or Facebook video.

Name one.

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