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Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Post by floatboth »

CalChris wrote: post #72
ctvo wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is a giant corporation with varied interests. In some areas they align with consumers (they’re not heavily in advertising... yet) while in others their anti-competitive behavior is harmful. Writing these impassioned posts like you’re defending the decisions of your favorite sports team that can do no wrong... oof.

When Apple rejects Epic from its App Store for violating its TOC, is that being 'anti-competitive' ?

The anti-competitiveness is even before that: when Apple decided not to allow sideloading.

Remember when Microsoft was sued for bundling IE with Windows? Now imagine if they blocked other browsers from existing on Windows back then.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Post by syllable_studio »

ryanmarsh wrote: post #31
syllable_studio wrote: post #19

I CAN'T WAIT for decentralized infrastructure to finally become robust enough that clones of instagram and facebook can all share a network -- they'll all become portals to the same social graph data. When that happens, there will no longer be any reason to put up with this abuse of privacy garbage.

all become portals to the same social graph data ... privacy How will we have privacy when the graph is open?

same as now, encryption and permissions. We'll just have more options and less lock-in.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Post by beaner »

cma wrote: post #63
agrippanux wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree it’s not sketchy in that you get what you pay for, the true cost of what you are paying is obfuscated casino-style from their player base, which is mostly kids. Case in point, my son will want to spend 2500 vbucks on a skin until I put that into real dollars for him - “are you sure, that’s $25 of your money” (a bit less with package bonuses notwithstanding). Perhaps this is my penance for working on Far…

I don't understand how Apple protects by taking a large cut of same?

You're getting down voted, but you're right. Apple filters heavily, they know everything in the apps they allow or disallow. Anything that is allowed and that they profit from, they are complicit in.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Post by playpause »

ctvo wrote: post #62
orev wrote: post #35

Watch “The Social Dilemma” on Netflix, see how far off the rails the industry has gone, then come back and tell me that Apple is the bad guy here. Someone needs to start standing up for what’s right, and Apple is probably the only one with the size and cash reserves to be able to do it. For all the free market cheerleaders, remember this: we already have laws in place preventing or regulating businesses from engaging…

Apple is a giant corporation with varied interests. In some areas they align with consumers (they’re not heavily in advertising... yet) while in others their anti-competitive behavior is harmful. Writing these impassioned posts like you’re defending the decisions of your favorite sports team that can do no wrong... oof.

I don't see any part of the comment that implies that Apple can do no wrong.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Post by sbuk »

ComodoHacker wrote: post #76

Honest question: Does Facebook app on iOS need IDFA that much? A user is logged in and identified anyway, Facebook can deliver personalized ads. Facebook loses data about user activity outside Facebook, but is it so important? Isn't in-platform data not enough to personalize ads?

For Facebook at least, it's not about 'ads'. Personalised ads are a distraction. Not being able to track outside of their platform takes away the ability to extend the profile they are building around the user. Their customers are interested in this profile because they can use that information to manipulate the user. And we're not talking about choosing Bosch over Whirlpool for a new dishwasher...

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Post by syllable_studio »

superkuh wrote: post #75

There's a pretty simple solution to both sides of the problem people are complaining about in here. Make a personal choice to stop using Apple, Facebook, Instagram, and Epic products. It's pretty easy and there's no cloudiness ethically to this solution. Take personal responsibility and vote with your $currency and attention.

I hope this will be much easier for people to do when there are decentralized options. (other thread here discussing that.) And then the big players can't just buy the competitors and keep locking us into the same problem.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Post by floatboth »

ctvo wrote: post #62
orev wrote: post #35

Watch “The Social Dilemma” on Netflix, see how far off the rails the industry has gone, then come back and tell me that Apple is the bad guy here. Someone needs to start standing up for what’s right, and Apple is probably the only one with the size and cash reserves to be able to do it. For all the free market cheerleaders, remember this: we already have laws in place preventing or regulating businesses from engaging…

Apple is a giant corporation with varied interests. In some areas they align with consumers (they’re not heavily in advertising... yet) while in others their anti-competitive behavior is harmful. Writing these impassioned posts like you’re defending the decisions of your favorite sports team that can do no wrong... oof.

> they’re not heavily in advertising... yet

haha, remember iAd? That failed quickly.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Post by [deleted] »

beaner wrote: post #83
cma wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand how Apple protects by taking a large cut of same?

You're getting down voted, but you're right. Apple filters heavily, they know everything in the apps they allow or disallow. Anything that is allowed and that they profit from, they are complicit in.

[deleted]

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Post by srtjstjsj »

agrippanux wrote: post #58
beaner wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've clearly never played Fortnite. Epic doesn't sell loot boxes, they sell skins. You get exactly what you pay for, there is nothing sketchy about it.

While I agree it’s not sketchy in that you get what you pay for, the true cost of what you are paying is obfuscated casino-style from their player base, which is mostly kids. Case in point, my son will want to spend 2500 vbucks on a skin until I put that into real dollars for him - “are you sure, that’s $25 of your money” (a bit less with package bonuses notwithstanding). Perhaps this is my penance for working on Far…

Certainly looks like karma.

Re: Dickhead of the Week: Instagram CEO Adam Mosseri

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Post by dr_zoidberg »

> Mosseri said Instagram’s advertising business requires certain data to show users relevant ads and to provide value for its advertisers, the majority of which are small and medium-sized businesses.

And they're always showing me utterly irrelevant ads and content ^_^

Not that I complain, I like that they haven't managed to track me well so far. But then again, I do wonder if they'd ever share that info (or if it was leaked), which companies/people would believe about me: whatever I say, or the flawed model that they've built.

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