A variety of corn has evolved a way to make its own nitrogen (2018)

Post by eloff » Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 11:54 PM UTC

ncmncm wrote: post #80

eloff wrote: post #76

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I'm not guessing, I'm summarizing my personal experience with anti-GMO people. You're guessing about my experience and motives though. Also there's a lot more to GMO foods than yellow rice, so it seems you're proving my point quite nicely.

I am well aware that there are many other uses. That is the problem. Uses that are beneficial are the rare exception.

Post by ncmncm » Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 3:26 AM UTC

bluGill wrote: post #64

ncmncm wrote: post #28

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You don't really have any idea where opposition to GMO foods originates. You guess that it is reflexive and unthinking because that is convenient for you to guess. There are strong arguments against, not necessarily GMO as a technology, but practically all existing commercial uses of it. Furthermore, each use of it is potentially an independent problem with its own dangers. Thus far the only beneficial use of it I ha…

golden rice is not available because activists in courts have done everything they can to keep it unavailable. This isn't capitalism, other than capitalism will not throw good money after bad fighting things out in court.

Post by callesgg » Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 9:53 AM UTC

ncmncm wrote: post #73

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Did you originally think we had found a variant of corn that was able to fuse or fission atoms? Haha, that would be something!

The title says it does. If it doesn't, the title is a lie.

Post by eloff » Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 4:48 PM UTC

ncmncm wrote: post #84

eloff wrote: post #81

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They're all beneficial or they wouldn't have gone to this stage. Maybe you don't think the benefits outweigh the risks, and that's a valid question. However, the concept obviously has tremendous potential. All the variety of life is after all genetics. Improvements in nitrogen uptake could save tremendous amounts of fertilizer and help the environment, for example.

Everything is beneficial to somebody. Opium distibution is beneficial to poppy farmers, CIA agents, and, earlier, to the British Empire. Roundup-resistant soybeans are beneficial to Bayer.

Post by forgotmypw17 » Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 9:17 PM UTC

ovi256 wrote: post #39

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It's not so straightforward. Those with financial interests in the matter manipulate opinion and pay for lopsided science. That's why many globally and especially in the US still 'doubt' climate change. The evidence today is overwhelming but 20 years ago was still more muddled as Shell & co were funding biased studies, while experts and environmentalists were screaming for action and simply ignored. And still today t…

it's not self-contradictory to be eager for low-co2 energy and oppose nuclear due to its large-scale damage in case of an incident (and with Fukushima, 3Mile, Tchernobyl and various smaller incidents it's not like this is just theory) It is contradictory if one believes excess CO2 emissions cause global warming which may cause up to a billion people to become climate refugees in 2100 . A Chernobyl every year pales in…