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Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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It is a pity that a similarly specced ThinkPad would be at least a thousand dollars more expensive.

Hmm, Lenovo routinely has deep discounts on Thinkpads. Either public coupons, EPP, etc.

I just bought a CTO T14 w/4750u, 16GB+0, 400nit screen for ~$830 + tax, less than the price of the Slim 7.

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I don't really think cloud vendors are holding their breath to switch to ARM, they are all heavily invested in X86. All their code has been built on it for forever, and there's a big advantage to having your dev machines running the same architecture as your cloud production machines. I think desktop ARM adoption would have to happen before the server market moves to the same.

> their code has been built on it for forever, and there's a big advantage to having your dev machines running the same architecture as your cloud production machines Is that really so? Are remote development and emulation not sufficiently advanced yet? Super hot paths might be x86 optimized, but how much does that really matter? I'd think at the scales of the big providers nothing matters more than performance/power…

Tons of x86 code is dereferencing unaligned addresses. Those have to be fixed before porting to ARM.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Pitty the screen is so bad. I still don't understand the point for glossy screen, to be honest.

Aren't MacBooks also glossy?

Yes; and it's a deal-breaker for some of us unfortunately :-/

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And a similarly specced Thinkpad will be perfectly usable if purchased in 2-3 years as they cycle out of enterprise fleets, and for a better price than the notebook in the article. Not a satisfying option for everyone, but a great one in my book.

Where can you buy such thinkpad?

ebay has tons of that stuff.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Pitty the screen is so bad. I still don't understand the point for glossy screen, to be honest.

Glossy screens generally have more vibrant colours; matte is inherently somewhat muted; and in some scenarios have better contrast and brightness.

(Also: PRETTY! and APPLE! are important psychological factors as well :P. Joking aside, many people will look at vibrant screen and how pretty it looks and make their decision without considering the specs, details and use cases )

For myself, in most situations glossy screens mostly mean I can see everybody behind me better than I can see my work; but they do have their place, especially for professional design/video/photo work IN (and this cannot be overstated) well controlled environment (basically, make everything BUT the screen non-reflective / control the light:).

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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post #81

It is a pity that a similarly specced ThinkPad would be at least a thousand dollars more expensive.

Hmm, Lenovo routinely has deep discounts on Thinkpads. Either public coupons, EPP, etc. I just bought a CTO T14 w/4750u, 16GB+0, 400nit screen for ~$830 + tax, less than the price of the Slim 7.

I hate that they make you work so hard for these prices.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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I have one. The US version "only" has a 4800U, but it was still an absolute steal at US$800. It's a nice size, feels solid, and lasts all day easily . I've used it all day more than once and not seen the battery go below 50% yet. Then again, I haven't really pushed it that hard. I'm sure if I played some games it would "only" last five or six hours. And no, I haven't had any issues with the screen. In fact I turn it…

> If you're staring at a 500nit screen at full brightness all day, you're probably not doing your eyes any good. I'm kinda surprised how many people set their screens to 100 % brightness (300-400 nits for most screens) on their desktop. I find that blinding and very uncomfortable. That also seems to be a reason why people complain so much about IPS bleed and glow; using the screen near full brightness in a dark room…

Do you have blue eyes?. I do, and in summer i can't look at the ground without being blinded. Read somewhere that the lack of pigments lets more light through. Comes with the upside of seeing better when it is dark. I use redshift on all computers plus switch to a different colourprofile on my monitor at night. On mobile i use the nightmode all day.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really think cloud vendors are holding their breath to switch to ARM, they are all heavily invested in X86. All their code has been built on it for forever, and there's a big advantage to having your dev machines running the same architecture as your cloud production machines. I think desktop ARM adoption would have to happen before the server market moves to the same.

AWS has multiple generations of its own ARM processor. I can't say anything about it, as I have no experience with it. I know it's at least two generations in and they claim 40% cheaper for similar workloads. What I can say is that this level of investment is large.

They look pretty good, check out the benchmarks: https://www.anandtech.com/show/15578/cloud-clash-amazon-grav...

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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So Intel... Lost their lead in consumer desktop CPUs and said ‘oh we have mobile and server’ But now AMD prove that Intel’s lead in mobile has been squandered. And then the largest buyers of server grade stuff are cloud vendors who are waiting for ARM to come of age.

I don't really think cloud vendors are holding their breath to switch to ARM, they are all heavily invested in X86. All their code has been built on it for forever, and there's a big advantage to having your dev machines running the same architecture as your cloud production machines. I think desktop ARM adoption would have to happen before the server market moves to the same.

For EC2 instances and the like it will be almost all X86 for a long time.

But much of the cloud is made up of services like S3, RDS, Redshift, Route 53, etc. ARM can be very competitive for many of these.

Re: Lenovo’s IdeaPad Slim 7 is a showcase for AMD’s exceptional new processor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> their code has been built on it for forever, and there's a big advantage to having your dev machines running the same architecture as your cloud production machines Is that really so? Are remote development and emulation not sufficiently advanced yet? Super hot paths might be x86 optimized, but how much does that really matter? I'd think at the scales of the big providers nothing matters more than performance/power…

Tons of x86 code is dereferencing unaligned addresses. Those have to be fixed before porting to ARM.

This isn't applicable to 64-bit Arm at the user application level, don't worry about it.

Prior to that, unaligned memory accesses were perfectly usable on ARMv7 (and even v6) too, this was fixed a while ago.

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