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Re: Data Broker Opt-Out List

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Post by Lio »

Delk wrote: post #73
swiley wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve realized a long long time ago that any interaction with linked-in is a bad idea. You might think facebook behaves pathologically but linked-in takes it to a new level!

Do you have any examples of that kind of behaviour by LinkedIn?

Well there was the well publicised man-in-the-middle attack by Linkedin.

They repurposed user login details to silently rerouted all the user’s email through their servers for scanning and mining.

That seems like a pretty dark pattern to me. To my knowledge no one got fired for unethical behaviour over that.

The company seems to have a “don’t get caught” attitude to privacy.

Re: Data Broker Opt-Out List

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Post by mehrdadn »

sofixa wrote: post #79
mehrdadn wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they’re legally bound to respect your choice Can I ask by what law?

GDPR and the California law inspired by it.

So only for those in Europe and CA?

Even re: California, are you sure CCPA implies these data brokers have to respect your opt-out for this particular purpose? (For reference, the opt-outs existed before CCPA and I believe GDPR as well... so you're saying they gained teeth afterward?)

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Post by yearoflinux »

axaxs wrote: post #30

If anyone cares, there are a nontrivial amount of companies who have your 'private' LinkedIn info. I don't know if they make fake accounts to friend you, recruiter profiles, or buy it from LinkedIn. I asked one to please remove my info, and they sent me a CCPA form. I told them I didn't live in California, and an agent acted confused and told me to just fill it out, it's the only way to remove it. In short, don't tru…

LinkedIn is pure cancer. They actively tempt you to message your contacts in a way where you think that the recepient would welcome your message right now but it's an opposite situation. This at best creates a communication gap and is at worst rude and might break up communication.

I'm shocked that Microsoft which is primarily bases on trust as far as corporate stuff is concerned went for linkedin. I hope they sell them or just burn them.

Nothing good can ever come out of linkedin they have less ethics than facebook and twitter.

Re: Data Broker Opt-Out List

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Post by KineticLensman »

Proven wrote: post #19
seqizz wrote: post #11

Pardon my ignorance,is this US specific (or mostly US)? Why is this stuff allowed?

Do you mean why can the government force enterprises to delete data they own due to opt-out requests? It's a mystery to me. Most HN commenters constantly whine how "data wants to be free" (no IP, no patents, no copyrights...), but when it comes to their own data they act like crony capitalilsts of the worst order and want to enlist the State to help them ensure exclusive, monopolistic rights to that data. Make up you…

Just because both of these views are expressed on HN doesn't mean that a majority of individual HN'ers hold them both simultaneously.

Re: Data Broker Opt-Out List

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Post by octoberfranklin »

EE84M3i wrote: post #74
zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Fill out surveys at malls with your name and either a phone number or address that matches one currently in your credit file and you can supply false info for the the opposite. - Put in a mail forwarding card with your name from a former address to a random real address like a Starbucks, Taco Bell, apartment complex w/o unit number, etc. - Change the billing address of a credit card or utility and allow to sit for…

Aren't some of these criminal fraud?

No. One requirement for criminal fraud is that you gain something of value.

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Post by encom »

aarong11 wrote: post #72
dawnerd wrote: post #58

So interestingly enough, a Facebook account I made years ago that was only used as a test is somehow in the records linked to my current address. Facebook is literally the only person that knows about this account and its never been attached to my personal FB account. It's making me really suspect right now...

Why? This is Facebook's business model. They have a shadow profile for you and managed to link your test account or some other service they own (whatsapp?) with your real account. They only need a single data point.

I'm surprised TFA doesn't include Facebook[1]. It's worse than all the others combined.

[1] https://facebook.com/help/delete_account

Re: Data Broker Opt-Out List

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Post by XenophileJKO »

swiley wrote: post #70
axaxs wrote: post #30

If anyone cares, there are a nontrivial amount of companies who have your 'private' LinkedIn info. I don't know if they make fake accounts to friend you, recruiter profiles, or buy it from LinkedIn. I asked one to please remove my info, and they sent me a CCPA form. I told them I didn't live in California, and an agent acted confused and told me to just fill it out, it's the only way to remove it. In short, don't tru…

I’ve realized a long long time ago that any interaction with linked-in is a bad idea. You might think facebook behaves pathologically but linked-in takes it to a new level!

Linkedin does let you use the same GDPR mechanisms built for compliance even if you live in the US. I work there, not in these systems, but a bunch of development effort goes into maintaining meta-data. This is so systems can accurately auto-purge information when people close accounts or power the ability to export your data and make it as easy as possible.

Download your data. https://www.linkedin.com/help/linkedin/answer/50191/download...

Close your account. https://www.linkedin.com/help/linkedin/answer/63

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Post by summitsummit »

zxcvbn4038 wrote: post #76
mike_d wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then when you go to open a credit card or actually try to clean up your credit report, you'll need to remember which Taco Bell you randomly pretended to live at to answer security questions.

When I run into that problem I wait for the rejection mail from the creditor, then I write back with a redacted photocopy of my IDs - completely useless with everything blacked out but my name - and a copy of their letter. I say here is my redacted ID as proof of identity and a photocopy of your letter as proof of receipt so please approve me and that has worked every time so far. It makes it very easy to see where t…

sad state of affairs that this level of surgical precision and orchestration is required just to not be stalked and creeped on to incredible levels. and this doesn’t even cover the situation with respective to showing up on relatives’ profiles.

if you have the time, you should make a complimentary “solution” read me page for this post.

deletion really does seem to be an unwinnable proposition, so flooding with false data is a great approach. can this be automated?

Re: Data Broker Opt-Out List

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Post by summitsummit »

octoberfranklin wrote: post #86
EE84M3i wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't some of these criminal fraud?

No. One requirement for criminal fraud is that you gain something of value.

but you do gain something of value here, privacy.

how is value defined in this context?

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