Uhh, so we're supposed to be happy about a variable bitrate and quality because it saves them some bandwidth? This isn't a feature for users it's a spin on a feature for the corporation.
> so we're supposed to be happy about a variable bitrate and quality because it saves them some bandwidth? yes, because it saves you money - netflix could be increasing its subscription cost, or it could keep it down as the subscriber base grows, by using technique like this. As long as you don't notice the difference, what's wrong with them saving some bandwidth?
Netflix is now doing per-shot encoding for UHD content
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#82Looks amazing and while I would like to enjoy such quality and am willing to pay for the premium plan (in fact I do already), I still can't watch the 4K content even in a world where I accept DRM modules in my browser, because some DRM plugins seem to be more equal than others.
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#83Uhh, so we're supposed to be happy about a variable bitrate and quality because it saves them some bandwidth? This isn't a feature for users it's a spin on a feature for the corporation.
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#85Uhh, so we're supposed to be happy about a variable bitrate and quality because it saves them some bandwidth? This isn't a feature for users it's a spin on a feature for the corporation.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've noticed that ATV+ looks the best, which is much appreciated. However, what has been driving me insane with all these services is how the bitrate is completely inconsistent throughout, depending on network congestion. Every service I subscribe to will "automagically" lower the bitrate if the network can't handle it. Which is fine, I get it. The thing is, it's the only way to watch anything, and depending on the c…
In case you are using Google/Cloudflare DNS try switching back to Comcast's DNS servers so you get directed to a Netflix Open Connect box within their network.
A scary thought (they highjack NXDOMAIN, MiTM http to "bring you important messages", etc)
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#88Also, something that's kind of weird about all this is that encoders (x264, x265, etc) already have their own rate control algorithms that decide on a frame or scene basis how many bits to use. Netflix taking an approach like this is equivalent to claiming that they're capable of doing a better job than these codecs in an automated way - so why not just contribute the code needed to achieve these improvements back to the projects they're using?
Last, it's very weird to select individual frames from an encode and not a selection of frames. The comparisons purport to show that the lower bitrate encode is better than the higher bitrate encode, but in fact (if I understand how they're using rate control correctly) what they are showing is a single frame in the lower bitrate encode that uses more bits than the same frame in the higher bitrate encode. So it's arguably not a fair comparison. And even with that, depending on how sensitive you are to artifacts, some of the "optimized ladder" encodes still look worse.
Edit: here is an example of what I mean when I said that they may have made the quality at 1080p worse. If what you end up watching is the highest bitrate 1080p available, you would get higher quality on the old latter than on the newer one. https://i.imgur.com/rzPR7Sh.jpg Actually, on some of the examples, even 720p on the older ladder is better than 1080p on the newer one!
Re: Netflix is now doing per-shot encoding for UHD content
#89Uhh, so we're supposed to be happy about a variable bitrate and quality because it saves them some bandwidth? This isn't a feature for users it's a spin on a feature for the corporation.
Re: Netflix is now doing per-shot encoding for UHD content
#90Uhh, so we're supposed to be happy about a variable bitrate and quality because it saves them some bandwidth? This isn't a feature for users it's a spin on a feature for the corporation.