CaptureOne is a great product if anyone is looking for alternatives at this time. No BS subscriptions, just a license.
Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable
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Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable
#82Slight sidebar: it's so frustrating that Adobe made the new Lightroom some cloud based monstrosity. For photographers with serious workflows involving local disks, we're now relegated to "Lightroom Classic" which makes me feel like I'll be discontinued in N years from now. I hope they change course and drop this whole cloud thing, the yearly subscription model is bad enough.
They've also pulled off an incredibly hostile move for paid users of older Lightrooms - they're refusing to update it for 64bit-only OS X. The app itself is 64bit (in fact, the app itself is _only_ 64bit), but its licensing/installer components are not. So if you update OS X, it's not guaranteed that Lightroom (that you paid for) will run, or if it does, how long it will continue running for. This isn't some ancient…
As an example, Big Sur will drop support for Mac Minis from before the Haswell 2014 models.
If Apple don't care about customers with purchases that are more than 6 years old, is it fair to expect Adobe to?
(That's ignoring Catalina's estimated support date likely to be 2022, as that's presumably not the sort of macOS update to which you refer.)
Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable
#83Yet another tick on the list of "ways mobile devices are not real computers". If something erases my files I ought to be able to run a recovery scan and get them back in minutes, assuming they haven't been overwritten with new data.
https://www.howtogeek.com/125521/htg-explains-why-deleted-fi...
Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable
#84When things like this happen, is it any wonder an increasing number of users are viewing any sort of "updates" with extreme apprehension? "It was working fine just before, and now I've lost everything. Why should I have even updated!?!?" I still remember when the general advice was "do not upgrade/change what works, unless you need something in a later version", which then changed to "updates are recommended", follow…
Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable
#85Obviously this is a screw up on Adobe's part, but this is a good time to remind everyone that if you're not backing up your data, then it must not be very important to you. Back up your stuff! You never know when something unexpected will cause you to lose it!
My sympathies lie with all the unlucky souls who are statistically all but guaranteed to experience data loss because it is so hard to do the right thing. Reminders which shunt people towards backup best practice are fine, but they are not a substitute for systems engineered to prevent data loss in the first place.
Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable
#86When things like this happen, is it any wonder an increasing number of users are viewing any sort of "updates" with extreme apprehension? "It was working fine just before, and now I've lost everything. Why should I have even updated!?!?" I still remember when the general advice was "do not upgrade/change what works, unless you need something in a later version", which then changed to "updates are recommended", follow…
On the audio production side of things... people are still pretty skittish when it comes to upgrades. I like to think of an audio production system as an appliance rather than a computer. There's a quote from George Sanger that goes something like "the difference between an appliance and a computer is that a computer breaks down more often". He was speaking about audio production. There's a photo in his book of a com…
Audio production software is notoriously conservative when it comes to updates.
Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable
#87Slight sidebar: it's so frustrating that Adobe made the new Lightroom some cloud based monstrosity. For photographers with serious workflows involving local disks, we're now relegated to "Lightroom Classic" which makes me feel like I'll be discontinued in N years from now. I hope they change course and drop this whole cloud thing, the yearly subscription model is bad enough.
I split up my catalogs aggressively, so I don’t really know how many images I have saved. But it’s in the hundreds of thousands.
New Lightroom might be OK for the casual photographer. But for the pro or even advanced amateur, the new Lightroom is completely useless.
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How did you find the migration? I’ve been resisting Lightroom upgrades as I don’t want the cloud stuff. But as raw support for new cameras falls off it’s getting harder since the two step DNG import is such a pain. Moving to Capture One or something else seems worthwhile. Tried Darktable but wasn’t a big fan.
I switched to Capture One and it’s so much better. The main factor is speed. Also allowing layers for all adjustments.
Re: Lightroom app update wipes users' photos and presets, Adobe says not recoverable
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Its worse than that (from 2019) "Adobe this week began sending some users of its Lightroom Classic, Photoshop, Premiere, Animate, and Media Director programs a letter warning them that they were no longer legally authorized to use the software they may have thought they owned." https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a3xk3p/adobe-tells-users-...
I don't know why this is such a shock to people reading HN. EULAs have always granted a license to use typically on a single computer. They have never granted a license to own (would gladly be proven wrong if someone has an example). It's not your code. You can't own it. I'm sure they are concerned about having to support the legacy code. Yes, converting to 100% subscription based users, but if they can pull the plug…
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Sadly for my A7ii all the RAW files come out exposed incorrectly since the last few updates :( And by almost 3 EV too. I know it's not because of the file, since they look just fine in Lightroom.
Mind posting the RAW files? I use the a7ii and darktable and it is perfect for me.
Here is the SOOC JPG for the same image : http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=88911356095628235668
Google Chrome might warn you of the risk for malware, but it seems to do for every good, free filehost :/
For reference, here is the screenshot : https://imgur.com/a/6RkiGyH
It doesn't do this for every photo either, which is even more baffling.
I hope you'll excuse the poor composition, but I didn't want to publish a photo I might put on an account with my name on it :)