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LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties

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Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties

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Post by true_religion »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #18

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said on Wednesday that he had authorized the city to disconnect utility service at a Hollywood Hills house after it hosted several large parties in "flagrant violation" of COVID-19 public health orders. The announcement comes two weeks after Garcetti first warned that properties hosting "un-permitted large gatherings" could have their water and power service shut off as a consequence.…

It’s because heat stroke and dehydration can kill during the summer.

Punishments granted for health violations shouldn’t make the situation even more dangerous. This won’t stop parties.

Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties

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Post by me_me_me »

kstenerud wrote: post #60
me_me_me wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, you tell yourself that.

If someone has the power to do an end-run around the criminal justice system, they'll certainly have the power to get around a municipal utilities shutoff order. In the worst case scenario, they could just order a few trucks of bottled water alongside the kegs, and set up a portable generator. Shouldn't cost more than 20 grand or so. And so what has this new enforcement tool actually done against the belligerent hype…

I am not disagreeing with you, I just don't see this kind of legislation ever passing/being enforced.

Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties

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Post by dragonwriter »

donw wrote: post #36
Fragoel2 wrote: post #16

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For people who glaringly have too much money to even care about it is a fine really a punishment?

It is if you scale the fine based on their income. Also, an idea: rather than handing fines and fees to the government -- which incentivizes all kinds of bad behavior, from civil forfeiture to crazy permitting laws -- you stick it in a general fund, and hand it back -- evenly distributed -- to the taxpayer as a dividend at the end of the year. Do that for every bit of revenue that government makes outside of collecti…

> It is if you scale the fine based on their income.

Income scaled fines are not existing legal tools.

Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties

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Post by DoreenMichele »

true_religion wrote: post #81
DoreenMichele wrote: post #18

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said on Wednesday that he had authorized the city to disconnect utility service at a Hollywood Hills house after it hosted several large parties in "flagrant violation" of COVID-19 public health orders. The announcement comes two weeks after Garcetti first warned that properties hosting "un-permitted large gatherings" could have their water and power service shut off as a consequence.…

It’s because heat stroke and dehydration can kill during the summer. Punishments granted for health violations shouldn’t make the situation even more dangerous. This won’t stop parties.

Given the context, it will be more of a speed bump than fines.

Re: LA Mayor Shuts Off Power at Hollywood Hills House That Hosted Large Parties

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Post by DangitBobby »

apple4ever wrote: post #73
donw wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The late Randy Pausch, in his Last Lecture[1] at Carnegie Mellon University, offered up... well, a lot of great advice, but the piece that jumped into my mind was: "It’s very important to know when you’re in a pissing match. And it’s very important to get out of it as quickly as possible." This thing looks awfully like a pissing match, and it's not just with the one homeowner in Hollywood -- it's with every person th…

Yup it does look like a pissing match. Its not hard to get around shutting off the power. Its not hard to have secret parties. People have been using illegal drugs for decades, despite the massive punishment that comes with getting caught - punishment that is far worse than illegally shutting off power. So why would this actual work?

It's actually a little easier to notice and cut off power to a large conspicuous party than it is to notice drug deals are going down to do busts. It's not like all the dealers are screaming YEAH WE LIKE METH and dancing under a stream of cocaine with 20 other people clapping their hands while Billy does a kegstand.

And the action taken to shut down someone's power is to call the power company and tell them to do some clicky clacks on a keyboard.

So definitely an apples and oranges comparison. That said, it probably would be a pissing match ultimately as that person said.

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