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Re: Del.icio.us

#82
I used to use stumbleupon a lot. I had an xmarks account for bookmark syncing before that went paid for. I now just use Firefox's built in syncing service.

Having never seen the point of a social bookmarking service can someone tell me reasons why I should consider using something like this? What were the benefits over my private bookmarks. I obviously remember it back in the day but viewed it the same I do most social networks, with suspicion.

Re: Del.icio.us

#83

Hmm next what, people will abandon Facebook and flock back to thematic PHPBB forums? (I honestly can't wait!)

The real throwback would be going back to use newsgroups, and only have competent people posting.

Re: Del.icio.us

#84

I used to use stumbleupon a lot. I had an xmarks account for bookmark syncing before that went paid for. I now just use Firefox's built in syncing service. Having never seen the point of a social bookmarking service can someone tell me reasons why I should consider using something like this? What were the benefits over my private bookmarks. I obviously remember it back in the day but viewed it the same I do most soci…

I use pinboard to get a bottomless bucket for interesting bookmarks that is shared between browsers and platforms. Browsers and platforms come and go, but Maciek's service stays reliably the same.

I could use better (as in faster and incremental) search, but otherwise I love the functionality.

Re: Del.icio.us

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that what Matrix and Mastodon do? (It is for me) And to some extent Slack/Discord I guess...

the chat thing is better done by XMPP, and mastodon... well.. if it ever gains real traction, it'll get swarmed by mob behavior just like Twitter is now.

The federated architecture is a powerful check on mob behavior. A Mastodon instance that enables the sort of mass harassment and mobbing you routinely see on twitter will just be refused federation by well-maintaned instances, just like Gab has been.

Re: Del.icio.us

#87

Delicious was for a time at the cultural nerve center of the web, and I think had the potential to be something like a twitter or a reddit if stewarded correctly. I like to think there was an alternate reality where Yahoo didn't run itself into the ground, and took its properties: delicious, flickr, tumblr, its massive userbase across fantasy sports, groups, news, messenger, geocities and answers, its email service,…

One difference in the fate of Yahoo vis a vis Google, is that Yahoo didn't spy on its users and exploit the knowledge gained from spying to make gazillions from advertising. Take from that what you will. Google made money, and then Facebook learned how to make money by trumping Google - by harvesting the "digital surplus" of its users to power an advertising juggernaut. The rise of advertising everywhere, and the los…

All that talk but forgot to say what Yahoo didn't do - show you what you wanted on the first page. You can run circles around it they just weren't good enough. But sure nostalgia is great and bringing delicious back will be amazinggggg

Re: Del.icio.us

#88

This is old school weird web! For those who did not experience it, del.icio.us was a bookmarking service, and one of the first to have "tags", but also had a sense of fresh discovery. You can bookmark and tag your sites. But you can also browse the bookmarks and tags of people you know, and people they know, getting deeper, freed from algorithmic manipulation. Like Wikipedia, but you start at you.

Was there a way to find people with the same link(s)? I don't think I'm going to get anybody I know starting to use this again, but I'm going to try it out. No algorithms. What a refreshing idea!

Yes you could see who had bookmarked what you had and how many people had bookmarked it.

Every now and then I would take something I had bookmarked that was not widely bookmarked and go through the people who had bookmarked it like me to find relevant stuff under the tag they had bookmarked it. Was a great way to find new content.

Re: Del.icio.us

#89

How relevant would be del.icio.us these days? (edit: typo)

It's content discovery without any algorithms involved, and only works well on things that have actual URLs (so no dynamically generated "feeds" and so on). Who knows, maybe the world is thirsty for that.

I've been writing a bit about content discovery sans algorithms and I think there is at least some number of people would be interested in it. Social curation is appealing, though I'm not sure how popular a dedicated site for curated link sharing would be. While things like Reddit, Twitter, etc. are not 1 to 1 replacements, I think it serves a similar purpose for a lot of people.

Re: Del.icio.us

#90

I never used del.icio.us but am I wrong in thinking that getting bookmarks from 10 years ago will just give a bunch of 404's?

That's why he offered an archiving service :)

Seems to be doing ok for me at least -

> 59795 of your bookmarks have been archived, representing 93% of your collection. 4380 bookmarks have not been stored due to errors: not found 2298, server error 970, (bunch of other small stuff)

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