Live data from Hacker News

Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable

scitechdaily.com

81–90 of 249 posts

Re: Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable

#81
>ceramic spheres encased in a cellular aluminum structure

sounds like the modern "ceramic in a metal matrix" tank armor:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chobham_armour

"The (pulverised) ceramic also strongly abrades any penetrator. Against lighter projectiles the hardness of the tiles causes a "shatter gap" effect: a higher velocity will, within a certain velocity range (the "gap"), not lead to a deeper penetration but destroy the projectile itself instead."

From the article on the material

"Water jets were also found to be ineffective because the curved surfaces of the ceramic spheres widen the jet, which substantially reduces its speed and weakens its cutting capacity."

Not just water jet, the ceramic/metal armor withstands even shaped charge jet :

"Because the ceramic is so brittle the entrance channel of a shaped charge jet is not smooth—as it would be when penetrating a metal—but ragged, causing extreme asymmetric pressures which disturb the geometry of the jet, on which its penetrative capabilities are critically dependent as its mass is relatively low. This initiates a vicious circle as the disturbed jet causes still greater irregularities in the ceramic, until in the end it is defeated. The newer composites, though tougher, optimise this effect as tiles made with them have a layered internal structure conducive to it, causing "crack deflection".[2] This mechanism—using the jet's own energy against it—has caused the effects of Chobham to be compared to those of reactive armour."

Re: Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable

#82
post #19

This would be great for bike locks!

I'd bet against it. It seems to hold up well against abrasive tools, but an aluminum foam with ceramic balls embedded in it doesn't sound like the recipe for an all around robust lock shackle. How would it stand up against bolt cutters (shearing cuts, not abrasive cutting), a manually operated hacksaw, or impact? A hacksaw might have the finesse to thread the gap between the ceramic.

My guess is that the hacksaw wouldn't work particularly well, but the bolt cutters or anything else that just exerts a strong, steady force without much motion should work. At that point, it shouldn't be any stronger than just regular aluminium.

Re: Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable

#83
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh? Plenty of things go in landfills that won't go away for many lifetimes

Seems legit to ask whether we can prevent adding more things to those landfills.

Like all metal items, this is trivial to recycle by melting it.

Re: Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable

#85
post #44

> The freefall of grapefruit from 10 m does not damage the pulp[1] because pomelo peel consists of vascular bundles and an open-pored cellular structure with the struts made of parenchymatic cells. I have a Marsh grapefruit tree, fruiting now (southern hemisphere) as it happens, and I note that it produces particularly pithy progeny. (Ignoring for the moment that Pomelo is one of the parents of the modern grapefruit.…

[deleted]

Re: Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does that work?

Essentially, the powder actuated piston fires a blank round and uses the pressure in order to propel a mass, that hits the lock and, assuming that the lock is restrained in the opposite direction, creates an immense force that destroys the internals of the lock and forces it open, all in less than a second.

Is this sort of like the weapon the guy in No Country For Old Men was using?

Re: Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable

#87
post #44

> The freefall of grapefruit from 10 m does not damage the pulp[1] because pomelo peel consists of vascular bundles and an open-pored cellular structure with the struts made of parenchymatic cells. I have a Marsh grapefruit tree, fruiting now (southern hemisphere) as it happens, and I note that it produces particularly pithy progeny. (Ignoring for the moment that Pomelo is one of the parents of the modern grapefruit.…

[deleted]

Re: Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable

#88
post #38

This could be a revolution in bike locks. Right now compact battery powered cutting tools can remove just about any bike lock quickly and can easily be concealed.

Prison cells (whose rooms are cast concrete over rebar). AT machines. Vaults, safes... Lots of things. Roll-up shutter doors... fences around construction equipment.

What construction equipment could possibly need an indestructible fence surrounding it?? Most construction sites have chain link or orange plastic fences, and they’re not to prevent theft. You hire security or insure the equipment against theft to protect against theft.

Anyone that owns heavy equipment carries insurance covering damage, theft, and liability. Otherwise it’s rented and Sunbelt or whoever is on the hook to replace it.

Safe and vaults, sure.

Re: Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable

#89
post #45
post #44

> The freefall of grapefruit from 10 m does not damage the pulp[1] because pomelo peel consists of vascular bundles and an open-pored cellular structure with the struts made of parenchymatic cells. I have a Marsh grapefruit tree, fruiting now (southern hemisphere) as it happens, and I note that it produces particularly pithy progeny. (Ignoring for the moment that Pomelo is one of the parents of the modern grapefruit.…

Maybe a damaged fruit would rot before the animals got to it, becoming offputting?

[deleted]

Re: Proteus Technology: New Material Is Strong, Light and Non-Cuttable

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an absolutely amazing innovation, but bike thieves have already progressed to using powder-actuated pistons in order to break the internal mechanism of a lock. Much faster and easier than cutting anything.

Locks should have a layer of explosive material inside, so firing the powder-actuated tool (PAT) may ignite the explosives and destroy the PAT itself, and it would help too by making some very strong noise so people may hear something is going on.

Booby traps are illegal.
Post reply on HN