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Re: The TikTok War

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Post by 082349872349872 »

bstar77 wrote: post #36
RspecMAuthortah wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you not also absorbed by your phone in other ways? > I would argue it is one thing to be absorbed by reading in your phone HN or other productive sources. Laughing and dancing on the other hand, after a certain period of time not so much useful.

This is one of the most depressing comments I've read in a long time.

https://twitter.com/JohnCleese/status/1281092706677243904

"${RELIGIOUS GROUP}: A man who has an uncomfortable feeling that somebody, somewhere is enjoying themselves."

for a different ${RELIGIOUS GROUP}'s opinions on dancing, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23591306

Re: The TikTok War

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Post by StevePerkins »

bstar77 wrote: post #16
teekert wrote: post #8

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All I see is girls putting their phone somewhere, dancing in front of it, then getting back into being absorbed by their phones. Can you describe more specifically what is so positive about it? My kids are about to enter the age at which they get a smartphone and these things make me a bit afraid (like, who's watching? Why do they stare at that app for so long? etc). I don't understand the alure, but I want to keep a…

You don't need to understand the allure. Are you not also absorbed by your phone in other ways? What wrong with people smiling, laughing and dancing? I'm an old parent trying to be open minded as well.

The parent commenter asked if anyone could describe what is positive about the app. Since they apparently have no first-hand experience with it, and do not understand the allure from what they've heard or seen so far.

You're responding to him or her with "You don't need to understand the allure". And somehow seem offended that he or she doesn't understand what people are laughing about.

Come on.

Re: The TikTok War

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Post by throwaway_kufu »

manishsharan wrote: post #27
kpennell wrote: post #11

I'm not sure how I got sucked into Tiktok but I was quickly hooked. There's something so refreshingly playful, authentic, and raw about so much Tiktok content compared to Instagram. Instagram (explore/discovery) is generally pretty people with pretty things in pretty places. That was fun for a while but it's just not that interesting after a while. I don't need to see more pretty pictures of women doing yoga. I don't…

Instagram seems to be evolving into Home Shopping Network or QVC.

It will only get worse as they roll out more and more shopping features...but in fairness they are smart and either anticipating the changing social media market (meaning there may be a critical mass of influencers realizing they treat IG like a job except without compensation) or it’s simply a way to test going after Amazon.

Re: The TikTok War

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Post by chvid »

nix23 wrote: post #43
chvid wrote: post #30

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I am also deeply fascinated by TikTok. It is really next generation social media. Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Hacker News all look seriously dated in comparison.

>Hacker News all look seriously dated in comparison Yes please make a movie about your next it projekt ;) I even hate repair-videos on youtube, it's slow and lame, the fix-it manuals are 1000s times better (since i know what a torx is and that most screws open counter-clock-wise)

I just might.

Seriously.

Social media for techies - what will that look like in ten years? Like HN? Or more like TikTok ...

Re: The TikTok War

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Post by monadic2 »

newswasboring wrote: post #31
bstar77 wrote: post #16

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You don't need to understand the allure. Are you not also absorbed by your phone in other ways? What wrong with people smiling, laughing and dancing? I'm an old parent trying to be open minded as well.

> What wrong with people smiling, laughing and dancing? There is nothing wrong in it, but there isn't much alluring there too. Its available from so many other platforms.

Really? Almost the entirety of where I see this is people recording and re-uploading content from tik tok onto Twitter. It’s certainly a distinct communication culture. I mean “Instagram dance” was never a thing the way “Tik tok dance” is a thing.

Re: The TikTok War

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Post by stopratelimit »

kpennell wrote: post #11

I'm not sure how I got sucked into Tiktok but I was quickly hooked. There's something so refreshingly playful, authentic, and raw about so much Tiktok content compared to Instagram. Instagram (explore/discovery) is generally pretty people with pretty things in pretty places. That was fun for a while but it's just not that interesting after a while. I don't need to see more pretty pictures of women doing yoga. I don't…

this reads like astroturfing

Re: The TikTok War

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Post by msbarnett »

cameronbrown wrote: post #77
msbarnett wrote: post #18

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Not sure I consider Chinese spyware any worse than the US spyware of Facebook, as a resident of neither country. Hand wringing about TikTok seems more rooted in sinophobia than genuine privacy concerns, from where I’m sitting.

Ah yes, because the US is well known for its Muslim concentration camps, social credit scores and surveillance panopticon. > Hand wringing about TikTok seems more rooted in sinophobia than genuine privacy concerns, from where I’m sitting. This is a strawman. People dislike the CCP not the Chinese.

> Ah yes, because the US is well known for its Muslim concentration camps, social credit scores and surveillance panopticon.

Perhaps I simply don’t consider the Hispanic concentration camps, private credit scores that still gate hiring, access to healthcare (via hiring) and renting and apartment, and surveillance panopticon powered by Google, better?

Re: The TikTok War

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Post by teekert »

bstar77 wrote: post #36
RspecMAuthortah wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you not also absorbed by your phone in other ways? > I would argue it is one thing to be absorbed by reading in your phone HN or other productive sources. Laughing and dancing on the other hand, after a certain period of time not so much useful.

This is one of the most depressing comments I've read in a long time.

Yeah, actually I wish HN would make me laugh and dance, this comment makes tiktok sound pretty good!

Re: The TikTok War

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Post by rvz »

bstar77 wrote: post #10
azatris wrote: post #6

I absolutely love using TikTok, but would give it up in a heartbeat for a Western replacement. It has absolutely brought more positivity into my life. I am specifically feeding the algorithm with this intent and I get what I asked for. It is a psychological tool.

I was a bit critical of my wife using TikTok until I realized that she replaced the negativity of Facebook with something that, in its current form, is pretty harmless. It's replaced rants and frustration with laughter and positivity.

Not sure if you're aware of the fact of what was going on in Hong Kong and the loss of its autonomous status due to the national security law. Facebook and TikTok are no different to privacy, but TikTok can give all of that data and the CCP can access it. But of course it doesn't matter to you because 'its pretty harmless'.

For Hong Kong citizens, it's much worse. They are being identified and arrested in the hundreds as the Chinese government has access to this data to find anyone insulting or ridiculing them. That's very totalitarian to me.

Re: The TikTok War

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Post by redblacktree »

xapata wrote: post #57
redblacktree wrote: post #42

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Indeed, I know many Chinese people who are afraid of the Chinese state.

It looks like they may also be brigading this post. Two downvotes pretty quickly on my comment. Maybe I'm out-of-touch with Hacker News norms, but I didn't think I said anything that warrants downvotes.

Edit to add: I don't make this post to complain about downvotes. The point was the potential brigading, since we're talking negatively about the Chinese state.

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