App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m • Hacker News Board

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by cerberusss » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 12:16 PM UTC

beagle3 wrote: post #64

Waze, a google owned app for the past 4 years, crashes because of the FB app. WhatsApp, a Facebook owned app, will not give you read access to your own chat database - it’s encrypted. But they have an arrangement with Google where it’s will back up unencrypted to your Google account (though, Google won’t let you retrieve it ... only the WhatsApp app can) Everything about this duopoly, their cooperation and lack of co…

Also, you can't migrate WhatsApp between iPhone and Android. There's a utility called BackupTrans, which follows an extremely convoluted process including a step where they install an old version of WhatsApp. It seemed to work but it trips some wire and WhatsApp put me in an hour-long timeout state, twice. Since I very much depend on WhatsApp, I dare not use it anymore.

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by potench » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 12:17 PM UTC

chancemehmu wrote: post #45

baxtr wrote: post #16

I recently learned that you need the FB SDK in your iOS app if you want to promote it on FB or Insta. So I guess most apps doing social marketing have the SDK.

This is not true.

Are you sure? Seem to recall needing FB SDK to manage marketing pixels that provide detail on marketing campaign analytics. If you’re spending money on those platforms to drive traffic you’re going to want to optimize your spend and see performance. To do that I believe you need the FB sdk - are you saying there’s an alternative or are you saying “just don’t optimize performance”.

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by AlexandrB » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 12:18 PM UTC

What iOS desperately needs is a client side firewall like little snitch. It would be an easy workaround for this nonsense - with additional privacy benefits. Plus, if every time Facebook fucked up a portion of users started blocking facebook URLs they might QA a little bit more thoroughly.

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by hellofunk » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 12:18 PM UTC

Reason077 wrote: post #72

krtkush wrote: post #23

Given how protective Apple is about the experience of apps on the App Store and this happening the second time, I'm surprised they have not come up with a way to prevent this from happening. Also, a monolithic SDK should not exist in this day and age.

#DefundFacebook

#DefundAllSocialNetworksExceptHN

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by vini » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 12:20 PM UTC

pi-err wrote: post #27

I use a non-Facebook login on Spotify and the app crashes right there. How is this even possible, even less acceptable from Spotify point of view?

even my bank app won’t open (Nubank)

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by wccrawford » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 12:20 PM UTC

beagle3 wrote: post #64

Waze, a google owned app for the past 4 years, crashes because of the FB app. WhatsApp, a Facebook owned app, will not give you read access to your own chat database - it’s encrypted. But they have an arrangement with Google where it’s will back up unencrypted to your Google account (though, Google won’t let you retrieve it ... only the WhatsApp app can) Everything about this duopoly, their cooperation and lack of co…

I'm pretty sure that's the same agreement that every developer has with Google just by writing an android app and using Google APIs.

You can store data on Google Drive that isn't accessible from Google Drive and only that app can read or write it.

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by alias_neo » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 12:21 PM UTC

AlexandrB wrote: post #78

beagle3 wrote: post #64

Waze, a google owned app for the past 4 years, crashes because of the FB app. WhatsApp, a Facebook owned app, will not give you read access to your own chat database - it’s encrypted. But they have an arrangement with Google where it’s will back up unencrypted to your Google account (though, Google won’t let you retrieve it ... only the WhatsApp app can) Everything about this duopoly, their cooperation and lack of co…

> WhatsApp, a Facebook owned app, will not give you read access to your own chat database - it’s encrypted. On android? On iOS you can get a tarball of all your chats.

I just had to check this; the Android app has "Request account info" and specifically mentions "which you can access or port to another app".

As much as I'm happy to pile on Google, Facebook and WhatsApp, this appears to be untrue.

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by riyadparvez » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 12:22 PM UTC

jgeada wrote: post #73

afroisalreadyin wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you do that? At OS level with a setting? Networking changes?

I use an app called AdBlock https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id691121579?pt=425087... It creates a local VPN that sets up a local filtering DNS. I just added the following domains to the block list: facebook.com fbcdn.com fbcdn.net fbsbx.com fb.com

That's very interesting. Does Android have anything similar?

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by dan-robertson » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 12:22 PM UTC

AlexandrB wrote: post #78

beagle3 wrote: post #64

Waze, a google owned app for the past 4 years, crashes because of the FB app. WhatsApp, a Facebook owned app, will not give you read access to your own chat database - it’s encrypted. But they have an arrangement with Google where it’s will back up unencrypted to your Google account (though, Google won’t let you retrieve it ... only the WhatsApp app can) Everything about this duopoly, their cooperation and lack of co…

> WhatsApp, a Facebook owned app, will not give you read access to your own chat database - it’s encrypted. On android? On iOS you can get a tarball of all your chats.

I think this is incomplete (it doesn’t represent replies or media properly) and the parent comment was talking about the SQLite database containing all messages

Re: App suddenly crashing on startup due to FBSDKRestrictiveDataFilterManager.m

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Post by polack » Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 12:23 PM UTC

Feels fair that it's happening to companies that hand over our data to third parties.

Anything that can open the general public's eyes to how much data is leaked through these kind of practices is a good thing. Hope it amounts to some non-negligible loss for Facebook, Spotify and the others.