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Pinboard Turns Eleven

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Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

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Post by dnquark »

idlewords wrote: post #65
azeirah wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having followed Maciej for a couple of years, I seriously doubt he'd ever fall into the trap of feature creep. He's one of the most pragmatic software engineers, if not people, I've ever encountered.

Also possibly the laziest man in north america!

The Russian and German sign-up page still reflects the old price. Story checks out! (Although I was slightly disappointed that it wasn't a fellow Slav discount.)

But with a name like "five nines software" customer expectations should be implicitly tempered ;)

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Post by floatingatoll »

idlewords wrote: post #69
floatingatoll wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're worrying about a business with a estimated minimum profit margin of 79%, using the most pessimistic assumptions I could think of. I wouldn't be worrying yet. In 2017^: revenue was $259k, costs were estimated $17k, archives 31.8TBy, 126M URLs. In 2020: revenue was $212k, costs were not specified, archives 82TBy, 192M URLs. Archives are 2.58x higher, URLs are 1.52x higher. So taking the higher of the two multipl…

Thanks for reassuring these message board Aristotles that my business is solvent! A couple of data points to help you calculate: * active users is not the same as paying users, it's people who did something in the last month * costs in 2020 will be something like $17,000 for hosting plus $8,000 for hardware and a few thousand bucks in travel/hotel costs to the colo. So say $30K. * the reason hardware costs are high i…

I am momentarily saddened that my estimate of overestimate was overestimated. Thank you for the actual data, hello LTNS, and congratulations on 11 years :)

Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

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Post by Normille »

lilyball wrote: post #53
Normille wrote: post #27

Oh dear. I'm a positive newbie here! Found my original receipt; 1st Jan 2015 for the princely sum of $10,60 for lifetime membership. And I only have a measley 1680 links saved. It's always a gamble with these one-time lifetime offers as you never know if the site's even going to be there in a few months time. But, even if Pinboard folded tomorrow, I'd still consider I got a great bargain. I must admit my heart sank a…

Out of curiosity, what do you use to store and search bookmarks on mobile? Both the old (third-party) iOS app I used to use and the old macOS app I used to use have stopped working years ago due to neglect. So I use the service pretty sparingly on desktop and pretty much not at all on mobile.

I'm on Android not iOS. But I use the Pinboard app. When I want to save a webpage, I use the "share link" menu [under the browser hamburger menu] to send it to the Pinboard app.

Re: Pinboard Turns Eleven

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Post by Normille »

Normille wrote: post #27

Oh dear. I'm a positive newbie here! Found my original receipt; 1st Jan 2015 for the princely sum of $10,60 for lifetime membership. And I only have a measley 1680 links saved. It's always a gamble with these one-time lifetime offers as you never know if the site's even going to be there in a few months time. But, even if Pinboard folded tomorrow, I'd still consider I got a great bargain. I must admit my heart sank a…

PPS: One of the other things I like about Pinboard [and one of the things that makes it so unobtrusive as to be forgettable --in a good way!] is that it doesn't feel the need to periodically expire my login session. I've probably had to re-log-in under a dozen times across all my various gadgets, over the more than five years I've been using it.

If only more websites were like that!

[Yes I'm looking at you eBay, Amazon et al... who greet me by name, show me what I've bought recently and then ask me to login!]

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Post by idlewords »

GuiA wrote: post #60
js2 wrote: post #54

That picture of past you... what is going on? On the table I see the following beverages: wine, liquor, coffee, water. There's also a cheese grater. And what looks to be a bottle of pills. Okay. Now on the window sill behind you is ... I don't even know, coffee, a cleaning product, some napkins maybe, another wine bottle and other sundry items. This looks like maybe a table shoved into the corner of a tiny restaurant…

From a past update: "I launched the site in July 9, 2009 from a small kitchen in Botoșani, Romania." https://blog.pinboard.in/2019/07/i_cant_stop_winning/ I suspect that's the kitchen :) My own kitchen table during this confinement period isn't too dissimilar...

Yeah, that's my Romanian kitchen. The bottles are Transnistrian cognac, local red wine, and the empty glass that looks like a cooling tower is a Turkish tea glass. These are the rocket fuels that built Pinboard.

The white bottle is just Greek table salt, though. No fun pills.

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Post by techntoke »

astrange wrote: post #79
techntoke wrote: post #18

Would love to see a Go-based bookmarking server (no JavaScript) and CLI/ncurses app that uses yaml/toml/json files for bookmarks: google: tags: - search engine url: https://google.com duckduckgo: tags: - search engine url: https://duckduckgo.com

Is that your requirements doc? “As a customer, I want a bookmarking tool written in Go that uses yaml files”?

No, I am not a customer because I do not believe bookmarks should be something that you pay to host in the cloud. However, for a self-hosted alternative my suggestion would be awesome and likely superior as it could be synced with any provider (Google Drive, One Drive, Dropbox, Nextcloud, etc).

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Post by cpach »

bachmeier wrote: post #47
cpach wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To me it’s definitely worth the price. Dunno why he doesn’t do trials though. Maybe it’s not worth the hassle? Those interested in the service can get a good feeling for it by looking at the product tour and recent bookmarks. And if you sign up and don’t like it then $22 is not that much money[1]. (No idea if he does refunds or not.) [1] In a Western country that is. I know $22 can be a lot of money depending on the…

> And if you sign up and don’t like it then $22 is not that much money[1]. ?? I'm not giving $22 to someone I don't know and then saying, "Well the service sucks, but it's not much money." He claims to give refunds, but the time cost for me - assuming I actually get it - would be far more than $22. Again, this is 2020, the world has moved on from this type of business model.

To me it’s definitely worth it since I think Pinboard is a really great service and I use it every day. YMMV.

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Post by cpach »

skeppy wrote: post #78
bachmeier wrote: post #21

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> ...so I'm genuinely worried about those declining user numbers My story might be relevant. I only recently learned about Pinboard. $22/year isn't terrible, but it's just a bookmarking service. Free trial? Nope - you need to pull out your credit card and fork over $22. You get seven days to request a refund. (Will I actually get it? No idea who's holding my money.) He's happy to boast about competitors disappearing,…

I tried Pinboard earlier this year. I found it too slow and was having issues with just general timeouts trying to categorize my bookmarks. I requested a refund and got it straightaway. Along with a kind reply from the owner. No issues. (I think I had paid via PayPal so I was hardly worried). Also... $22. Must everything be a free trial? There’s a lot of issues and costs associated with that for businesses (and incre…

FWIW, it can happen from time to time that Pinboard is a bit slow, but IME it’s not very often. It mostly works fine.

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Post by slyall »

dewey wrote: post #76
slyall wrote: post #6

You fixed my [twitter search] bug!

Which one is that? I'm still trying to find a way to exclude the "twitter" tagged results from my searches.

Mine was the opposite. It stopping including any tweets I made after 3 July 2017 in my searches. It appeared to be still downloading them, just they were not included in searches. I think the bug was still present a few months ago. No idea if others were affected or just me.

I also saw a bug where it didn't include the end of tweets (possibly some sort of character limit). But that was pretty minor.

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Post by pcglue »

idlewords wrote: post #80
skeppy wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried Pinboard earlier this year. I found it too slow and was having issues with just general timeouts trying to categorize my bookmarks. I requested a refund and got it straightaway. Along with a kind reply from the owner. No issues. (I think I had paid via PayPal so I was hardly worried). Also... $22. Must everything be a free trial? There’s a lot of issues and costs associated with that for businesses (and incre…

Hey, thanks for reconsidering the site! It sounds like you caught things in mid-maintenance, or on a day when someone decided to crawl everything with no pause between requests. For what it's worth, one feature I want to make work on the site is "create a sharable list of links to give people", it's a use case that comes up a lot.

While you're here, add a "used none" filter (alongside existing "used once") in tag editor please?
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