Estonian Electronic Identity Card: Security Flaws in Key Management

Post by pier25 » Fri, Jul 03, 2020, 3:07 PM UTC

edko wrote: post #58

pier25 wrote: post #36

I'm from the EU and considering incorporating my next company in Estonia. Anyone else in a similar situation has any recommendations or ideas about this?

In general, I had a good experiences. There are a few annoying things, however: my Estonian bank (VUB) discriminates against non-Estonian customers (even if they are EU citizens/residents) by applying a foreigners fee. Also, the local business register seems to be above data protection laws and sells your information. I receive lots of spam just by being in the register. Also, if you think that because your company i…

> Also, the local business register seems to be above data protection laws and sells your information.

Jesus that sounds terrible...

Post by nemetroid » Fri, Jul 03, 2020, 6:37 PM UTC

aj3 wrote: post #71

nytgop77 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Whole paper ballot process is monitored (and understood) by all parties. They keep each other in check. I can sign up for such monitoring and see for my self (at least in my country). Nobody will allow me to inspect actual machine used to count votes. 2. To hack paper ballot voting, conspirasy must include many more people than e-voting.

1. You feel that the process is well understood because that’s the only process you’re familiar with and likely it was taught to you since school. In reality other schemes such as electronic voting could be just as clear and transparent, while possibly even more natural as visiting websites and using apps is what people do every day as opposed to gathering physically in order to run an ancient form of poor cryptograp…

> you never were allowed to open and inspect voting ballots or boxes

You are allowed to see that the boxes are empty in the morning, and you are allowed to see each ballot as it is retrieved from the box when it is being counted. Between those two points the box never leaves public eye. Why would you need to open it yourself?

> or attending the central counting place in your state/at the federal level to make sure they are counting everything correctly as well

Why not? All of those are open to the public in my country.

I think you are seriously underestimating the amount of openness that is possible - and practiced - with paper ballots.

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