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Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by dreamcompiler »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #55
dreamcompiler wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agree with this but Costco doesn't sell the Ubuntu system AFAIK. I bought my XPS at Costco, wiped Windows and installed Ubuntu manually. Still saved money over buying the Ubuntu version elsewhere.

You decided against Win 10 Pro and WLS? Why?

I actually spent a couple of days trying to preserve the Win install so I could dual-boot in case I wanted to test my code under Windows or play games, but I finally got tired of f&cking around and gave up.

I have no interest in running Windows day to day. I live in Emacs, the CLI, and Common Lisp, all of which work best in a Unix-based OS. So it's MacOS or Linux. Plus I'd heard too many horror stories of how difficult it was to turn off all the Microsoft spyware, advertising, and no-choice updates to ever consider Windows seriously.

This was a couple of years ago before WLS was production quality. I might try again if I was doing it today, but only if I could turn off all the Microsoft daemons. Even so, I still find it philosophically distasteful to have to engage in technological warfare against my operating system just to stop it spying on me.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by pyrophane »

amarshall wrote: post #14

I applaud the change to a 16:10 screen (the ratio used in all Apple laptops and sadly few others for years). The extra vertical space for the same area is very welcome; 16:9 feels very cramped at laptop sizes once you add a few menu bars and headers and banners. I hope more laptop manufacturers decide to go this direction.

Oh, I know. I would love to see even taller displays make their way to workstation computers.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by Ecstatify »

I would recommend strongly to not buy Dell laptops. The quality of the laptops are very bad. I bought a XPS 15 two years ago for around €2000 and the screen isn’t working anymore. The laptop hasn’t moved from my desk. Look at the support pages, there’s so many issues with no resolutions.

Current issues:

Screen distorted - Have to use external monitor

Laptop randomly freezes for 30s - Great for meetings

Bluetooth randomly disconnects all devices

WiFi randomly disconnects

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by heelix »

wahlrus wrote: post #19

Dang I really hope they do the same with the new xps 15 and 17... But there's probably no market for this aside from me specifically T_T

I've got a 17" in process -- looks like a 5 week delay for it. Picked up a M2 drive that I'll be adding to turn it into my Linux laptop. Pretty excited to have a good 16:10 screen on something this size, will all sorts of expansion options when 32G won't cut it anymore.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by BTBurke »

tchaffee wrote: post #73
nmstoker wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this happened within a year I would simply insist they replace the battery under warranty and highlight that there was no element of discretion about it. They would do it.

I did insist. I don't remember the details anymore because it was a couple of years ago. I would have taken them to small claims court over it if I had been in the US but I was overseas long term. Either way, they have lost a customer who has bought many of their laptops over the decades. Over a $100 battery that clearly had a manufacturing defect.

Same thing happened to me. Hours and hours on the phone for battery swelling which was a known problem.

I was overseas at the time and they dragged the process out long enough that eventually warranty was up and they told me they wouldn't replace it.

I replaced it myself but I'll never buy a Dell again and recommend others go with Lenovo.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by BTBurke »

Ecstatify wrote: post #83

I would recommend strongly to not buy Dell laptops. The quality of the laptops are very bad. I bought a XPS 15 two years ago for around €2000 and the screen isn’t working anymore. The laptop hasn’t moved from my desk. Look at the support pages, there’s so many issues with no resolutions. Current issues: Screen distorted - Have to use external monitor Laptop randomly freezes for 30s - Great for meetings Bluetooth rand…

Agreed. Do not buy Dell. You'll find hundreds of people with the same problem on support boards, but if you call support they will act like you're the first one ever to have a problem.

Happened to me with the battery swelling issue on the 2016 model. I would never buy another Dell after that experience.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by propter_hoc »

amarshall wrote: post #14

I applaud the change to a 16:10 screen (the ratio used in all Apple laptops and sadly few others for years). The extra vertical space for the same area is very welcome; 16:9 feels very cramped at laptop sizes once you add a few menu bars and headers and banners. I hope more laptop manufacturers decide to go this direction.

I have a Surface Laptop 3 with a 3:2 display. It's excellent.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by castratikron »

Ecstatify wrote: post #83

I would recommend strongly to not buy Dell laptops. The quality of the laptops are very bad. I bought a XPS 15 two years ago for around €2000 and the screen isn’t working anymore. The laptop hasn’t moved from my desk. Look at the support pages, there’s so many issues with no resolutions. Current issues: Screen distorted - Have to use external monitor Laptop randomly freezes for 30s - Great for meetings Bluetooth rand…

I would recommend strongly to buy Dell laptops. The quality of the laptops is very good. I bought a XPS 13 four years ago for around $1000 and everything still works great. The laptop has come along during international travel.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by flo123456 »

BTBurke wrote: post #86
Ecstatify wrote: post #83

I would recommend strongly to not buy Dell laptops. The quality of the laptops are very bad. I bought a XPS 15 two years ago for around €2000 and the screen isn’t working anymore. The laptop hasn’t moved from my desk. Look at the support pages, there’s so many issues with no resolutions. Current issues: Screen distorted - Have to use external monitor Laptop randomly freezes for 30s - Great for meetings Bluetooth rand…

Agreed. Do not buy Dell. You'll find hundreds of people with the same problem on support boards, but if you call support they will act like you're the first one ever to have a problem. Happened to me with the battery swelling issue on the 2016 model. I would never buy another Dell after that experience.

The roughly dozen XPS13 we bought for work are mostly fine. And support has been great on the ones that were not.

Re: Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS pre-installed

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Post by bitL »

pedrocr wrote: post #16

At this point, waiting for the mobile Ryzens to appear across the laptop ranges seems like a good idea. They've crammed 8 cores instead of 4 into the same TDP and made laptop chips that are in the same ballpark as the dekstop counterparts: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-10610U-vs-AMD-... The graphics should also be better than the Intel ones. So far the only interesting laptop I've seen is the Lenovo T…

As you mentioned, AMD laptops are gimped, either by an inferior screen, lower amount of memory (imagine 8GB limit for an 8-core Ryzen or 16GB limit for a dual core i3) or some other specification is not up to high end standard.
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