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At least on desktop, even though the help text explicitly says "If you have Zoom Client installed", you can actually click the Launch Meeting button/link to reveal a hidden option for joining the meeting without actually installing (which requires an additional click). I imagine this never shows up if you actually install; they're just trying to get people to install unnecessarily.
Title is "How Zoom works". It's a good article with valid points but nothing about Skype. The editorialized title "Turns out Zoom isn't all that different to Skype after all" has no appreciation for how hostile Skype's technology has become in the past 10 years. It went from nicely working Qt program that worked well on OSX, Linux, and Windows to Electron beast that maybe works on Windows, could possibly be mining bi…
Where did you see it stopped working on Linux? What kind of misinformation is that? More relevant is that it went from a p2p network structure to full centralized under Microsoft.
I just installed the snap now and it seems a lot better and it seems to support video calls on Linux (didn't try to call anyone since everyone I know left skype). Too little too late.
Looks like they stole the remaining credit out of my account though.
Title is "How Zoom works". It's a good article with valid points but nothing about Skype. The editorialized title "Turns out Zoom isn't all that different to Skype after all" has no appreciation for how hostile Skype's technology has become in the past 10 years. It went from nicely working Qt program that worked well on OSX, Linux, and Windows to Electron beast that maybe works on Windows, could possibly be mining bi…
10 years ago is about when Microsoft purchased Skype... If I remember correctly they received money from the government to do it and then stopped using the P2P supernodes model and switched to their own servers to track users more easily... It used to work great, I wish the pre-MS source code would get leaked.
After a few minutes, I realised he was talking about my laptop. I presume I had been promoted to a supernode thanks to my location and bandwidth. This was around 2009.
Title is "How Zoom works". It's a good article with valid points but nothing about Skype. The editorialized title "Turns out Zoom isn't all that different to Skype after all" has no appreciation for how hostile Skype's technology has become in the past 10 years. It went from nicely working Qt program that worked well on OSX, Linux, and Windows to Electron beast that maybe works on Windows, could possibly be mining bi…
10 years ago is about when Microsoft purchased Skype... If I remember correctly they received money from the government to do it and then stopped using the P2P supernodes model and switched to their own servers to track users more easily... It used to work great, I wish the pre-MS source code would get leaked.
Got a source for this? Not that I find it hard to believe.
Title is "How Zoom works". It's a good article with valid points but nothing about Skype. The editorialized title "Turns out Zoom isn't all that different to Skype after all" has no appreciation for how hostile Skype's technology has become in the past 10 years. It went from nicely working Qt program that worked well on OSX, Linux, and Windows to Electron beast that maybe works on Windows, could possibly be mining bi…
Nowadays you actually have a chance to make an audio call, even if you're not on the right Ubuntu LTS version.
And I've been using it on MacOS for the last couple of years. Not as a main communication channel, but it's a good meeting place and it supported video chats in our group of 10 people without issues, but granted I don't have experience with more than that.
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10 years ago is about when Microsoft purchased Skype... If I remember correctly they received money from the government to do it and then stopped using the P2P supernodes model and switched to their own servers to track users more easily... It used to work great, I wish the pre-MS source code would get leaked.
The Skype client of today is just a renamed Lync client, which actually used to be decent. They've done nothing but make it worse since Lync ceased to exist.
Zoom has great video and audio. I think good echo cancellation, video that copes well with the network, lower latencies - we don't experience that directly but the after effect is you feel subjectively better about the experience. I think picking each part of the UX apart is secondary to making the key feature work well.
The UX is terrible, and totally not their strong point. When you install it should have a test my audio and video thing, and set use computer audio as the default meaning you never have to see the "join with computer audio" thing ever again.
Joining with a phone is useful for people without a computer, but the main UI doesn't need to mention it, the details are in the invitations.
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I spend a lot of time on calls, but it’s always felt clear to me. The icon is the state and the text is the action that will happen if you click it.
But that's not how buttons work usually. Look at the reload button in Chrome. The icon shows you what will happen if you click it. The tooltip text also shows you what will happen if you click it. The text and icon are never opposite. At least I cannot think of another app that does this.
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We've switched from zoom to https://team.video and have been loving it. They have a "low bandwidth" mode you can toggle on, that just turns off your outgoing and incoming video streams. I think it still tries to send around screen shares though, for better or worse. It has made a huge difference for some team members with very challenged Internet connectivity where they can just put themselves in low bandwidth mode a…
I looked but didn't see anything. Can you record meetings, and download them to edit, etc.?
I looked again and I guess the low bandwidth setting is called "Bandwidth Saver" behind the little gear icon on the left hand side when you're in a call.