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Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by ApolloFortyNine »

justaman wrote: post #16
walrus01 wrote: post #8

Eventually reddit will go the way of digg and fade into irrelevance.

Can't happen soon enough. The days where forums were the defacto place for discussion were just better. The communities would self-police and alternative opinions weren't suppressed nearly as easily. Reddit is a meme slideshow, not a place for discussion.

The biggest hit against reddit is that every large sub has to resort to weekly discussion posts/tagging every post so people can filter, simply because of the way subreddits are forced to be laid out.

A normal forum will have different sections to discuss everything even mildly related to the overarching topic, and a number of areas to talk about things not related to the topic. But Reddit doesn't have those features, so subs have to resort to these half measures or allow multiple daily posts about the same 5 topics.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by akho »

On the one hand, I can understand them not wanting to be a platform for content they do not like (find offensive, believe legally dangerous, &c). On the other hand, presence of porn and nazis is an indicator of a healthy community — banning these things leads to decline in other areas (see Tumblr). You can’t have partial freedom of speech.

At least the porn is still there.

The problem with ‘social’ sites is that they allow cross-contamination between the seedy bits, and r/woodworking and the like.

The open web — with separately hosted forums — is a lot better, but less convenient. I hope to see a solution sometime, but the odds are not good.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by mullingitover »

> Abusive content is not acceptable on Reddit nor is engaging with it.

This is such a fail for Reddit. If the content isn't allowed on the site, it's on Reddit to remove it. The existence of the content on the site implies Reddit's approval of the content, so engaging with that content is a wholly innocent act.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by basch »

superflit wrote: post #18
zeveb wrote: post #6

So, if people don't vote the way the Reddit admins want, the Reddit admins will replace the voters. That is definitely a way to get only the things the Reddit admins want upvoted, upvoted. But it seems to me to be the opposite of free discourse. I can sympathise with the admins, because a) there are a lot of terrible, toxic people b) there are a lot of bot armies. The latter is probably easiest to combat, but it is s…

Your discourse seems a bit like "hate speech" and you implying that: "That is definitely a way to get only the things the Reddit admins want upvoted," Feels like a bigoted conspiracy theory. Reddit admins are not a cohesive group of people and this blanket statement hurts. Your are suspended to comment here. Please think of the children. /s

"Reddit admins are not a cohesive group of people."

What does that mean? They are all paid employees of the same company, they have leadership, common goals, and accountability up the chain.

Is that part of the /s or commentary within the post?

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by dvtrn »

dageshi wrote: post #74
kache_ wrote: post #27

Reddit has been compromised with actors who do not have free speech in their best interest. The other day there was an illuminating ask reddit post about transexuals who decided to transition back and their experiences. That post got promptly removed by moderators; even though there was no hateful content within it at all. They effectively silenced the transexual population due to an ever so slight conflict of ideolo…

I imagine the mods have a fairly finely tuned sense of which threads will turn into a shitstorm and don't give a fuck about pre-emptively killing them. And honestly I WISH nobody used reddit anymore, maybe it could roll back 10 years when it was frankly more fun, but it sure seems like more people than ever are using it.

I imagine the mods have a fairly finely tuned sense of which threads will turn into a shitstorm and don't give a fuck about pre-emptively killing them.

How do we feel about pre-emptive moderation? Is it warranted? Is it warranted every time? Only certain topics?

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by wvenable »

justaman wrote: post #16
walrus01 wrote: post #8

Eventually reddit will go the way of digg and fade into irrelevance.

Can't happen soon enough. The days where forums were the defacto place for discussion were just better. The communities would self-police and alternative opinions weren't suppressed nearly as easily. Reddit is a meme slideshow, not a place for discussion.

The long tail of reddit is the same as forums. I'm subscribed a bunch of niche subreddits for products I own, projects, etc and it's just like forums except with a measure of consistency and features that I appreciate. These communities are self-policed the same as any other forum.

The problem with reddit isn't technical, it's human. A large group of people will ruin literally anything.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by cperciva »

torben-friis wrote: post #22

I don't really get reddit's efforts to clean their site. They sometimes come up with measures like this, while routinely ignoring the development of horrible communities that they're aware of (since some users take any possible opportunity to mention them to the admins and are met with silence or half measures). They even came up with the concept of quarantined subreddits. I honestly can't think of a single honest re…

I think quarantined subreddits play the same role as "NSFW" tagging on posts: They're not banned, but it improves the user experience to not see them by accident.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by marricks »

cthalupa wrote: post #70
marricks wrote: post #56

An obvious concern of this would be just silencing content which isn't violent or morally wrong but just not wanted in a large commercially viable website. This is obviously polarizing but something I'll be watching is what happens to /r/chapotraphouse. CTH has some posts that violated a rule but most don't, the admins claim their quarantining was never well communicated and intentionally vague, posting screenshots o…

>CTH has some posts that violated a rule but most don't I'm not familiar with the CTH situation, or super familiar with CTH in general besides knowing them to be pretty far left on the political spectrum. But based solely on this line, if their admins are not making enough of an effort in Reddit's eyes to clean up and discourage people from making these rule breaking posts, then the quarantine makes sense. Even if on…

I don't follow them enough to personally have an opinion on if they warranted that treatment or not, but did follow enough to know it really couldn't have been most posts. So really can't argue with you on the validity of the banning.

but... that if the fraction of bad posts lead to mass suspensions on CTH then I'd say it is a creepy/not-good direction for Reddit.

Re: Reddit started banning accounts that voted for content “against their policies”

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Post by Scoundreller »

torben-friis wrote: post #22

I don't really get reddit's efforts to clean their site. They sometimes come up with measures like this, while routinely ignoring the development of horrible communities that they're aware of (since some users take any possible opportunity to mention them to the admins and are met with silence or half measures). They even came up with the concept of quarantined subreddits. I honestly can't think of a single honest re…

There is a marijuana related subreddit that is geo-banned from Canadian IPs.

Reddit just says “This content has been restricted in your country in response to a legal request.

Geoblocked in Canada due to General legal request”

Is there any way to push Reddit to disclose who sent the request?

I’d love to followup with that agency, but we have a lot of police services in Canada, if it was one.

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