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Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

kmonsen wrote: post #7
myrion wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it happened live on air, they were clearly identified as CNN and willing to comply with police orders - making the police's claim laughable. I wonder what those officers were thinking, arresting a reporter on live camera.

The arrested reporter was black, there was another White CB reporter standing nearby that was not arrested. Perhaps it’s all coincidence. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arres...

The crew headed by the white reporter moved when police asked, they were behind “the line”. The crew that was arrested should not have been but it’s not the same scenario.

Are you sure it’s as simple as “this guy was black”? If you aren’t sure it seems like a bad accusation to make.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by hartator »

sowbug wrote: post #61
tehwebguy wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instructions from some random cop are not laws

In my state, one must comply with any order from a police officer who is in uniform and acting in the performance of his or her duties. This is a law with criminal consequences.

Which state is that?

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by _bxg1 »

Frost1x wrote: post #17
myrion wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it happened live on air, they were clearly identified as CNN and willing to comply with police orders - making the police's claim laughable. I wonder what those officers were thinking, arresting a reporter on live camera.

It took quite awhile before they decided to arrest the reporter (Omar Jimenez). I suspect the decision came from higher up given the time delay (due to communication). I was watching this particular reporter late last night / early this morning and his coverage was, IMO, excellent to give some context and feel for the ongoing situation. It was pretty surreal to watch, for me, and notice absolutely no actions from law…

And let the Streisand Effect begin.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by iso1631 »

chooseaname wrote: post #11
kmonsen wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The arrested reporter was black, there was another White CB reporter standing nearby that was not arrested. Perhaps it’s all coincidence. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arres...

> Perhaps it’s all coincidence. That's being extremely charitable.

Or sarcastic

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by monocasa »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #81
kmonsen wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The arrested reporter was black, there was another White CB reporter standing nearby that was not arrested. Perhaps it’s all coincidence. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/minneapolis-cnn-crew-arres...

The crew headed by the white reporter moved when police asked, they were behind “the line”. The crew that was arrested should not have been but it’s not the same scenario. Are you sure it’s as simple as “this guy was black”? If you aren’t sure it seems like a bad accusation to make.

The crew headed by the black reporter was complying and simply asking where was OK to move to when they were arrested.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by zdragnar »

papercrane wrote: post #23
spoiledtechie wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't call it unreasonable. They were told to clear the streets. They didn't actually clear the street. They stayed on the street. Reporters not following directions.

According to CNN's timeline the police asked them to move at 5:09 AM, the reporter asked where they wanted them, at 5:11 AM the police arrested them. The reporter was not given the chance to follow directions. https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protest-update...

This is a pragmatic point of view, not necessarily what I believe is "right":

Generally speaking, you don't stand around and try to have a conversation with the police. In a tough situation, the very last priority of the police is helping CNN get a nice camera shot.

Had they moved immediately upon being given the order to clear the street, then attempted to have the conversation, they likely would not have faced arrest.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by splitrocket »

sparkling wrote: post #29
newacct583 wrote: post #4

Not an argument for this site I guess. But this is what happens when you have political leaders picking sides in violence. Trump literally tweeted "when the looting starts the shooting starts" (not before this event, of course -- it's an example). You think rhetoric like that doesn't have the effect of empowering police to abuse their power against people they don't like?

> when the looting starts the shooting starts Harsh words, but at the end of the day, people will defend their property with a gun and have every right in doing so.

Yes, extrajudicial murder to protect physical property, that's justice.

When you care more about stuff than you do about actual human lives, your evil is showing.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by maest »

fiblye wrote: post #68
ponsin wrote: post #20

from the description of the YouTube video > Black correspondent Omar Jimenez had just shown a protester being arrested when about half a dozen white police officers surrounded him. Is there any reason to assume racism? it looks like two other people in the camera crew got arrested and they don't look black. It looks to me like CNN is trying to play the race card to stir controversy when there are millions of other mo…

I can't say exactly what the reasoning was, but watching the full video, they hauled off the black reporter alone, then after a substantial delay, arrested the others all at once. Almost as if they had an "oh wait people might notice this" moment.

It looked like they were hauling people off one-by-one, which could reasonably be standard procedure for riot situations. Isolate individuals from the group and handle them separately - that sort of thing.

Moreover, they started with the reporter, since he seemed to be the leader of the group (e.g. he was the one doing the talking).

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by throwaway894345 »

fiblye wrote: post #66
Hamuko wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> arresting a reporter on live camera. It's possible that they didn't know it was a live broadcast.

I'm not sure what your point is. Is it that it's okay to arrest them if they're not live? (Not attacking you--just hard to understand intention through text) It really seems like their intention was to cook up charges, then realized they screwed the pooch and pretended it's all okay because now they're free. It's not. The intimidation has lasting effects and they know it.

> I'm not sure what your point is. Is it that it's okay to arrest them if they're not live?

The point is that it's not even in the officers' own self-interest.

Re: CNN reporter arrested live on air while covering Minneapolis protests [video]

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Post by iso1631 »

sowbug wrote: post #61
tehwebguy wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instructions from some random cop are not laws

In my state, one must comply with any order from a police officer who is in uniform and acting in the performance of his or her duties. This is a law with criminal consequences.

So "uniformed cop" tells you to "shoot that person", you have to do it?

So "uniformed cop" tells you to put a soldier up in your house, you have to do it?

So "uniformed cop" tells you to empty your pockets and stand clear while they ransack your house?

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