Time for Trump to use Mastodon.
That would be really funny.
Imagine all the devs and supporters of Mastodon trying hard to come up with a pretext why it is okay to block him from the network via technical changes.
Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#82Oh just great. The american left should stop pushing people away by acting like spoiled babies.
The idea that twitter's actions are going to lead to anything good is terribly misguided. The idea that acting out your collective trump derangement syndrome is helping is even more misguided.
Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#83This seems like a dubious foundation for Twitter to start with. If Trump controls the National Guard there is a definite public interest in knowing when he is likely to deploy the National Guard. It'd be headline news after the fact; it should be telegraphed beforehand. Trump might be bluffing, but Twitter can't possibly know.
The president does not have the authority to call in the National Guard to perform law enforcement in a state — that is the governor’s decision:
https://kstp.com/news/minnesota-national-guard-activated-to-...
https://www.npr.org/2018/04/05/599895184/why-president-trump...
Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, looting had already started hours before he'd posted this. That being said - the President of the United States, just stated on one of the largest social media platforms used in the U.S., that citizens of the U.S. are now to be shot. From his words, immediately. It could even be viewed as "they should've already been shot at" If you don't understand how this is glorifying violence, I don't think you can be made…
Where does it unequivocally say that?
https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/glorification... doesn't seem to have 'unequivocally' anywhere.
I am not in favor of looters, but note that https://fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-19-15.pdf emphasizes the necessity of graduated response. I presume state militia units share the doctrine (Figure 2.1) that lethal response is only called for in the face of an armed threat, and that it must be the minimum response necessary.
(found by googling four words: national guard crowd control; 2nd page of results)
Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like maybe you should take the hint. It's not "taking sides" to point out that you're glorifying violence if you as the president are threatening to deploy military force against protestors.
Sending police to stop violence is "glorifying violence"? How exactly?
Sending police to shoot at protester is "glorifying violence". As a reference, that's the approach that Assad took in Syria back in 2011.
Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#86The service that hosts the accounts of all branches of the US military, all major weapons contractors, all three letter agencies, and many foreign militaries, governments, and world leaders guilty of all manner of war crimes, and this is where they draw the line for violence. Really interesting.
This is using past violence as a threat of imminent violence while the other accounts you mentioned will generally reference violence indirectly or in the past tense. That is an important distinction.
That's a fair point. I'm not defending Trump's tweet, but it seems defining violence glorification is arbitrary. It would be funny if Twitter adds a rule that says you can be an organization whose whole purpose is to make devices that kill people as long as you don't glorify making devices that kill people.
Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#87Link to @realDonaldTrump tweet: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/12662311007807447... tweet text: > ....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you! Disclaimer text: > This Tweet…
Why is this reply being downvoted? It is merely informative.
> It is merely informative.
That's the problem.
When facts/information doesn't align with one's agenda, some people have a terrible habit of trying to have it hidden/banned/removed/etc.
You would think in hackernews of all places, we'd upvote the comment to see exactly what trump wrote so that we can decide for ourselves when it was "glorifying violence". Sadly, many here don't want that to happen.
Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#88Twitter's problem is that Trump wants to pick a fight, and there's no good way to avoid it. Trump's base is not on Twitter. Fact checking tweets provides more grist for the outrage mill, and the media which his base consumes amplifies the conflict and not the substance. So the tweets will get worse and worse. It's impossible to give Twitter good advice, it's a horrible position to be in.
They should honestly just cross the rubicon and suspend his account. Playing both sides like they have will only prolong the conflict. Trump and the outrage mill alike will still find things to interpret as fighting until Twitter just pulls the switch.
Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#89It's interesting Twitter finally started taking a stand in Trump's last year as president, I wonder if it's because they hope he'll get ousted and they won't have to deal with the backlash from him for too long. Or it's just a marketing ploy, perhaps customer count was falling.
I'm not trying to valorize Jack, but why is it so hard to believe they just finally feel some level of responsibility? While you should always keep an eye out for more banal motivations, at some point one can only tolerate so much.
I agree that Jack is well-intentioned, but I think he's making a huge mistake by choosing a half measure. Twitter's current policy allows Trump to claim he's being silenced while simultaneously allowing him to get his message out to his Twitter followers. It's the worst of both worlds.
Twitter should either let him tweet whatever he wants or ban him.
Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#90I said it yesterday and got downvotes, Twitter’s CEO decided to pick sides in the political battle so they should expect what’s coming to them.
Fact checking doesn't imply picking sides. Not fact checking does.
> Fact checking doesn't imply picking sides. Not fact checking does.
Fact checking with partisan media sources does imply picking sides.