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Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by userbinator »

crazygringo wrote: post #26
beervirus wrote: post #7

What a crock of shit that grills are now IoT devices. The less of my life that’s accessible on the Internet, the better.

I saw from another thread that this is actually for the temperature of a meat thermometer, that you can constantly monitor and without having to open the grill (which is undesirable). So actually not a crock of shit, and pretty useful if you're grilling/smoking over long periods of time before/during a big party or something. Not all grilling is quick searing. Sometimes new features aren't just gimmicks, you know?

What are the chances that it's also sending the temperature over the Internet to be logged by some server in the cloud, so they can gather usage metrics and other analytics? This is literally "telemetry" in the original engineering sense, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if it did.

On a lighter note, Weber does sound like a good name for a web browser.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by ohyeshedid »

youngNed wrote: post #43
crazygringo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw from another thread that this is actually for the temperature of a meat thermometer, that you can constantly monitor and without having to open the grill (which is undesirable). So actually not a crock of shit, and pretty useful if you're grilling/smoking over long periods of time before/during a big party or something. Not all grilling is quick searing. Sometimes new features aren't just gimmicks, you know?

a guage. On the bbq lid. No, i can't check it while i sit inside, this is true, there is, however a very good argument that says, maybe i shouldn't actually be inside while the bbq is on though.

Remote temperature monitors are often used for low and slow smoking that lasts for 10+ hours. There are many smokeboxes designed to be used unattended, a great deal of them have pellet driven hopper systems to keep delivering fuel so there's consistent heat and smoke.

Personally, I wouldn't use an app for this and instead just use a remote sensor and dedicated monitor, but I don't fault anyone for using an app.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by 9nGQluzmnq3M »

rhizome wrote: post #8

Android is such a drag sometimes. Between mystery quirks like this, where I'm sure someone who has been making Android apps for 6 years will be able to explain it, and things like the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel[1], such that Android will routinely topline sharing to a contact you got one text message from three years ago. "F.U., that's why" is the simplest conclusion I can…

> the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel

As an extra F.U., it also changes the list of contacts after a second. So I try to tap on my wife, only to have it substituted with the plumber who came once half a year ago... and this of course gets logged by the AI, ensuring the plumber continues to hold pride of place in my contacts.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by andrewflnr »

youngNed wrote: post #58
zerocrates wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a barbecue recipe guy I like, big proponent of leave-in thermometers (the kind with leads that snake outside the barbecue). He likes to say that the in-lid thermometers are just fine, provided you're planning to eat the lid. I still probably wouldn't use an IoT one, though.

i'm gonna level with you here, i've never eaten meat in my life, so am out of my comfort zone here, but i can't help but feel from reading this that the HN crowd have a propensity for over-engineering that is coming to the fore here. Fire, knives and an apron with a pithy slogan - c'mon, how hard can it be?

It's not an HN thing. Cooking meat well is actually tricky.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by 9nGQluzmnq3M »

grawprog wrote: post #67
rhizome wrote: post #8

Android is such a drag sometimes. Between mystery quirks like this, where I'm sure someone who has been making Android apps for 6 years will be able to explain it, and things like the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel[1], such that Android will routinely topline sharing to a contact you got one text message from three years ago. "F.U., that's why" is the simplest conclusion I can…

I dunno what's going on with you and some of the other child commenter's phones but my share panel is only people I text every day and always has been. Also, the share panel is configurable: https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/edit-androids-share-m... Can confirm this works, I just tried it.

You can pins apps (second row), but not contacts (first row).

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by ohyeshedid »

youngNed wrote: post #58
zerocrates wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a barbecue recipe guy I like, big proponent of leave-in thermometers (the kind with leads that snake outside the barbecue). He likes to say that the in-lid thermometers are just fine, provided you're planning to eat the lid. I still probably wouldn't use an IoT one, though.

i'm gonna level with you here, i've never eaten meat in my life, so am out of my comfort zone here, but i can't help but feel from reading this that the HN crowd have a propensity for over-engineering that is coming to the fore here. Fire, knives and an apron with a pithy slogan - c'mon, how hard can it be?

You have not the experience to even make that claim in a valid way. Being snarky doesn't compensate or hide your ignorance of the topic.

It's ok to not know something about a topic and not disingenuously comment about it.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by crazygringo »

flukus wrote: post #59
olyjohn wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the grill temp... the meat temp.

A meat gauge connected to the thermometer on the lid then. This whole attitude to cooking is also weird. Cooking is in large part experimenting, seeing what works and what doesn't, learning and iterating. Sometimes the results will be bad, often they'll be sub-optimal but the variance is part of what makes it and we lose something by trying to turn it into an exact science. If you want something precisely timed and a…

> If you want something precisely timed and always the same I suggest McDonalds.

Actually, if you want something precisely timed and always the same I suggest a Michelin-starred restaurant.

If you've ever eaten at McDonald's you'd know the quality control, well, leaves a lot to be desired.

Your comment tells me you don't really know anything about cooking at all.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by Groxx »

9nGQluzmnq3M wrote: post #83
rhizome wrote: post #8

Android is such a drag sometimes. Between mystery quirks like this, where I'm sure someone who has been making Android apps for 6 years will be able to explain it, and things like the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel[1], such that Android will routinely topline sharing to a contact you got one text message from three years ago. "F.U., that's why" is the simplest conclusion I can…

> the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel As an extra F.U., it also changes the list of contacts after a second. So I try to tap on my wife, only to have it substituted with the plumber who came once half a year ago... and this of course gets logged by the AI, ensuring the plumber continues to hold pride of place in my contacts.

This is quite literally my least favorite UI feature that Android has ever released.

It's slow. It encourages mis-taps. I have intentionally tapped it literally ever despite using the share dialog thousands of times, since it almost never shows me the desired contacts, and even then I've tapped the wrong contact half the time.

It's incomprehensibly awful, wantonly violates even the most basic user-interaction guidelines of the past few decades, and there's no way to turn it off. What in the world are they thinking / drinking.

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by Forge36 »

9nGQluzmnq3M wrote: post #83
rhizome wrote: post #8

Android is such a drag sometimes. Between mystery quirks like this, where I'm sure someone who has been making Android apps for 6 years will be able to explain it, and things like the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel[1], such that Android will routinely topline sharing to a contact you got one text message from three years ago. "F.U., that's why" is the simplest conclusion I can…

> the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel As an extra F.U., it also changes the list of contacts after a second. So I try to tap on my wife, only to have it substituted with the plumber who came once half a year ago... and this of course gets logged by the AI, ensuring the plumber continues to hold pride of place in my contacts.

I just fucked this up today. I didn't do anything bad, but apparently some apps share by default when selected?

Re: I think my BBQ just offered to be my default browser?

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Post by netsharc »

rhizome wrote: post #8

Android is such a drag sometimes. Between mystery quirks like this, where I'm sure someone who has been making Android apps for 6 years will be able to explain it, and things like the absolute inability to override the order of items in the sharing panel[1], such that Android will routinely topline sharing to a contact you got one text message from three years ago. "F.U., that's why" is the simplest conclusion I can…

I think the share menu uses concurrency to query available share targets (querying their names and icons), so whichever target responds first, gets put in the list first. Which is indeed very dumb, because the user gets a randomized list everytime s/he wants to share something.

I'm using Fliktu https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oakstar.fl... to override the share menu, it works in most apps (some apps use an internal share menu), and you can also trigger it by shaking the phone after copying something into the clipboard. AFAIK it sorts the share targets by "last used".

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