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Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by wingerlang »

RHSeeger wrote: post #13

I just want the title bar back, above the tabs, on the mac. It's so frustrating trying to move/select the window with a tiny sliver available to click on.

Top right seems to always have space.

You can also drag any window from any side by dragging perpendicular to the resize direction. It’s still small but I never heard anyone complain about precision there.

And then there’s window manager if you’re a power user.

I also think you can move any window with three finger via system settings.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by logicallee »

I'm in the tab collector category, but after I read something I don't need it sticking around in my autocomplete. If I want it saved I add it as a bookmark.

For this reason I just use incognito mode. On Android, every so often Chrome decides to just discard all my open incognito tabs. (This is also described here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQuestions/comments/40fe10/in... .)

Could you fix this bug. Namely, please do not discard open incognito tabs without confirming with me.

I am sure I don't discard them accidentally (by closing the browser or something) as I am quite careful not to throw away my reading. I wish Chrome would do the same, and be more careful about just throwing away whatever I'm reading.

I feel this is as good a place as any to leave my comment so it is noticed.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by andrewstuart »

I have needed "the tab problem" solved for many years.

I've tried and never stuck with any third party solution.

I work in specific "modes/projects" and each mode has several tens at least of tabs open.

It would be great if I could somehow switch between work modes and see all the relevant tabs for that mode.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by Non24Throw »

akersten wrote: post #23

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

> I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think.

I’m a collector and it’ll definitely help me a lot in one specific use case: I have a ton of tabs open and want to close some of them, but not all of them

Very often I’ll be growing the tab count on one subject (usually because I can’t find a satisfactory answer), finally I’ll piece that answer together and start applying the new knowledge elsewhere... then come back to my browser and all those extra tabs are now useless, but I can’t tell where they start or end

Sometimes I can find the “root” (the point where I started opening tabs on that subject) and know I can safely close everything to the right. But sometimes other important things are mixed in, so it’s not always possible, and even if it is that still means I need to find the root

The usual solution is having to cycle through every tab, take on the cognitive load of having to identify whether the tab only applied to that subject or not, then close it or keep it

Sometimes that means evaluating the relevance of 30 different tabs of 30 different sites that all look different, and rarely do they have “SUBJECT X” printed at the top

It’ll be really nice to be able to just close the group and not think about any of it and not worry about whether I closed something important, I’m really looking forward to this feature

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by alwillis »

akersten wrote: post #23

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

The first browser I used with vertical tabs was OmniWeb, which originally ran on NeXTSTEP back in the day.

Fast forward to now; it’s still available for macOS 10.12+ from the Omnigroup: http://omnistaging.omnigroup.com/omniweb?pk_vid=258c19059951...

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by floatingatoll »

metroholografix wrote: post #12
mkj wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bit tinfoil hat, but could it be an attempt to head off Firefox Containers which would be a threat to Google Cookie collection? That's certainly my main use case for containers, using Google Music without telling the rest of the web about my Google account.

https://github.com/atomontage/chrome-private

This looks very useful, but it combines valuable profile management work with disabling various web features per the author's opinions. Sadly, disabling those features by default makes it significantly easier to fingerprint users using this script (which is precisely the opposite of its intentions).

So I forked it and set those features to be disable-if-requested rather than disable-by-default, so that people who just want to manage separate profiles have an option that doesn't make them easier to fingerprint:

https://github.com/floatingatoll/chrome-private/

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by nieve »

Zancarius wrote: post #41
nieve wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't feel too bad about your tab hoarding, I'm at 3 windows with 4630 tabs and I'm pretty sure I'm closer to a stress test than a user. Chrome can't function with 1/20th of mine and Firefox runs smooth and fast. Restarting with loading all the session data takes seven or eight seconds total. It can't just be the different multi-process models so I'm pretty sure that the Chrome team can do better.

I think I found my kindred spirit! I have one Firefox instance presently at 3 windows and 3379 tabs and another with 10 windows and somewhere north of 2300 tabs. I wouldn't dare do this under Chrome/Chromium. On my system at least, I've noticed that Firefox does get less responsive around 8000+ tabs. Mostly it's just the start up that complains. Sometimes I'll get annoyed and mass-bookmark/close tabs (filed under dat…

For finding things I just use search in Power Tabs. Filtering down usually leaves me with a list I can scan through quickly. When it comes time to clean up I cheat by using that as well - filter my tab list, then select individual or groups of tabs to close. Generally I'll start by closing all tabs from news sites like the NY Times and WaPo under the assumption that they're probably stale, then clear out a bunch of HN tabs, and most often then switch to digging through the github ones to see what's actually relevant anymore. StackExchange and Reddit tend to get slashed pretty hard as well. Basically filter, viciously select, then close and I can blow away a thousand tabs in a couple of minutes.

The highest I've ever gotten was around 6000 on old Firefox for Linux and I did see some slowdowns then, but that was on a seven year old laptop.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by Non24Throw »

andrewstuart wrote: post #83

I have needed "the tab problem" solved for many years. I've tried and never stuck with any third party solution. I work in specific "modes/projects" and each mode has several tens at least of tabs open. It would be great if I could somehow switch between work modes and see all the relevant tabs for that mode.

Control+N a new window for each mode is what I currently do. Then Super+ to cycle through them (if you’re on a Mac)

It’s not perfect though. If you accidentally open a few tabs in the wrong mode there’s no easy way to transfer them. And I’ll often forget that another window is open in the background

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by maciekmm »

akersten wrote: post #23

Neat, and works well for the toy example with 4 tabs open. I don't really think it would work as well for the "tab collectors" as they think. They seem to be aware of this too, since none of the screenshots in the post have anywhere near what I would consider a significant amount of tabs open. I use the tree style tab extension on Firefox[0], which I cannot live without. Horizontal tabs become useless after about 15…

Shameless plug. I made the ContainerTabsSidebar firefox addon[0], which is inspired by the TST. It groups tabs based on firefox privacy containers, which means every container has an isolated cookie store. I'm a tab hoarder and developed it to work for such "use-case".

It's very similar to the groups presented, but displays tabs vertically.

[0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-tab...

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