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Scraping Recipe Websites

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Re: Scraping Recipe Websites

#81

I highly useful tool in my household for dealing with the SEO/tracking scourge that recipe blogs have become is https://www.paprikaapp.com/ . Hoping someday to have some spare time to integrate this with https://grocy.info/ and have a pipeline for recipe -> preparation automation.

You might want to checkout an app I built called Cooklist. It has the features of Paprika + Grocy + Instacart + Pinterest all in one. https://cooklist.co

Re: Scraping Recipe Websites

#82

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It's a running joke in our house. I start off wanting to make some mashed potatoes, and time and time again, I have to suffer through someone's life story--the camping trip in North Dakota when Susan's husband first discovered his love of homemade sour cream--etc. Makes me wonder if a super barebones recipe site that literally just has recipes and absolutely no fluff would be something people would gravitate towards.

“Why doesn’t everyone who is putting information out there for free not cater to exactly my needs”. What an utter load of bollocks. These are people who are creating something that they enjoy doing and giving you information you apparently need for free. I don’t understand why anyone would trash their desire to write something that is personal and/or interesting to them about it. And that’s setting aside that these u…

Or maybe, people are just fed up with the 'fluff'. I know I am. I don't need or want a 10 minute lead in to a news story that finally explains the issue. I don't have time to sift through drivel to get the information I am after. This isn't academic research project. And frankly, I don't give two shits about ANY of the blog spam fluff. When I'm looking for a recipe, I want the technicals of 'how to make this', and that's it.

I see this as more a problem of the web, than the recipe sites themselves. More and more often, web sites are shoving information down your eyeballs to keep you on the page longer. I hate this trend. I want the service or information to give me what I want, and get out of my way. Google search? Get me what I want, and get out of the way. Email inbox? Same deal. Yet the exact opposite is happening with more and more invasive time wasting drivel, being injected everywhere.

Re: Scraping Recipe Websites

#83

I highly useful tool in my household for dealing with the SEO/tracking scourge that recipe blogs have become is https://www.paprikaapp.com/ . Hoping someday to have some spare time to integrate this with https://grocy.info/ and have a pipeline for recipe -> preparation automation.

You might want to checkout an app I built called Cooklist. It has the features of Paprika + Grocy + Instacart + Pinterest all in one. https://cooklist.co

works in Canada?

Re: Scraping Recipe Websites

#84
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But how will I read about "Dakota", an avid yoga enthusiast who just happens to be a mom, who enjoys making healthy and savory meals for her family while blogging? Seriously, I hope this spells an end to the Google ranking imposed nonsense that makes the simple act of searching for a recipe so insufferable.

It's gone to extremes now, but to be honest - if someone wants to blog and post a recipe at the same time, that's their prerogative?

Some people actually enjoy reading those things too. There's a place for straight recipe sites, and a place for personal word-vomit blogs with a recipe at the bottom.

The web would be a sad place if you were only allowed to write your recipes in LaTeX.

Re: Scraping Recipe Websites

#85
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a running joke in our house. I start off wanting to make some mashed potatoes, and time and time again, I have to suffer through someone's life story--the camping trip in North Dakota when Susan's husband first discovered his love of homemade sour cream--etc. Makes me wonder if a super barebones recipe site that literally just has recipes and absolutely no fluff would be something people would gravitate towards.

mashed potatoes Steam some potatoes. (Don't boil them. No one wants watery mash.) Add far more butter than anyone would think is reasonable. (Like, 1/2lb of butter to 1lb of potatoes. Maybe more.) Add salt and pepper. (No, more than that. You've under-seasoned them.) Mash them until they're the consistency you want. (For really smooth mash use an electric hand mixer instead of a masher.) To make them better still, pu…

I would buy a cooking book with recipes explained like this one. With real world tricks and explaining "why" you do it in that way. A raw list of ingredients is, in my opinion, almost useless.

Re: Scraping Recipe Websites

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Does it pose an actual problem? When I search for recipes, I type in the food I want + recipe and then open the top 5 or so links. I quick scan for a list of ingredients. If I don't easily spot on in a few seconds I move on. I'll do this until I have a couple different lists of ingredients for making the item. This ends up taking less than a minute or two. That just isn't a significant portion of time compared to how…

You dismiss the challenges of finding a single recipe by mentioning you find several and combine them? That completely defeats the purpose of a recipe. You're literally creating your own recipe at that stage.

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Re: Scraping Recipe Websites

#87

I highly useful tool in my household for dealing with the SEO/tracking scourge that recipe blogs have become is https://www.paprikaapp.com/ . Hoping someday to have some spare time to integrate this with https://grocy.info/ and have a pipeline for recipe -> preparation automation.

You might want to checkout an app I built called Cooklist. It has the features of Paprika + Grocy + Instacart + Pinterest all in one. https://cooklist.co

Looks really great! I have a pretty solid workflow and dataset built up in the existing setup but when I'm looking to upgrade/update going to try it out. Thanks for the rec

Re: Scraping Recipe Websites

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a running joke in our house. I start off wanting to make some mashed potatoes, and time and time again, I have to suffer through someone's life story--the camping trip in North Dakota when Susan's husband first discovered his love of homemade sour cream--etc. Makes me wonder if a super barebones recipe site that literally just has recipes and absolutely no fluff would be something people would gravitate towards.

mashed potatoes Steam some potatoes. (Don't boil them. No one wants watery mash.) Add far more butter than anyone would think is reasonable. (Like, 1/2lb of butter to 1lb of potatoes. Maybe more.) Add salt and pepper. (No, more than that. You've under-seasoned them.) Mash them until they're the consistency you want. (For really smooth mash use an electric hand mixer instead of a masher.) To make them better still, pu…

Since this seems to be an OK thread to add humor to, I'll point out you can also stick 'em in a stew.

Re: Scraping Recipe Websites

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post #77
post #5

But how will I read about "Dakota", an avid yoga enthusiast who just happens to be a mom, who enjoys making healthy and savory meals for her family while blogging? Seriously, I hope this spells an end to the Google ranking imposed nonsense that makes the simple act of searching for a recipe so insufferable.

It's definitely grown worse now, but I think that this originated from recipe sites that people actually used to follow, because the blogs were interesting and we got to know the writers, and what's changed is more that we're jumping to the first Google hit and we expect them just to grant us the information we wanted. There is a difference between opening up a recipe site, like a favorite blog, or the New York Times…

I think it's also about different types of recipe collections.

There are cookbooks that are all recipes. This seems to be what the HN crowd is looking for when they search the internet.

There are cookbooks where each recipe is accompanied by a little story. These seem to sell well, judging by the number of them that appear on bookstore shelves.

And then there are cookbooks where all of the anecdotes are in the front of the book and the recipes are in the back. These are the ones I like because I can easily find what I'm looking for, but can still read the background about a recipe, if I choose. It's not right in front of me causing the actual recipe steps to continue on another page.

I think recipes and the internet don't mix, unless you're just looking up ingredients while shopping. It's one of the areas where a fat, old cookbook is always better, in my experience.

30 years from now, nobody is going to cherish grandma's dog-eared and tattered old iPad full of recipes.

Re: Scraping Recipe Websites

#90
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

mashed potatoes Steam some potatoes. (Don't boil them. No one wants watery mash.) Add far more butter than anyone would think is reasonable. (Like, 1/2lb of butter to 1lb of potatoes. Maybe more.) Add salt and pepper. (No, more than that. You've under-seasoned them.) Mash them until they're the consistency you want. (For really smooth mash use an electric hand mixer instead of a masher.) To make them better still, pu…

I would buy a cooking book with recipes explained like this one. With real world tricks and explaining "why" you do it in that way. A raw list of ingredients is, in my opinion, almost useless.

I’ve found that The New Best Recipe cookbook covers this pretty well for me. They have an introduction to each recipe talking about all the variants they tried, and then there’s a clearly marked recipe section.
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