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Re: Convincing-looking 90s fonts in modern browsers

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Impressive research work (and results)! I actually went through the same experimentation when I worked on the fonts and the website at https://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/ . I ended up with a slightly different solution - the Bits'N'Picas converter, which works very much like potrace-pixelperfect, and takes either .png or actual bitmap fonts as input: https://github.com/kreativekorp/bitsnpicas . What would be ideal…

Oh wow, i've stumbled on your site before. It's a masterpiece, and was definitely an inspiration for the work we talk about in this blog post.

Super interesting, what you're saying about the OpenType Sanitizer – i'd wondered why it appears you can't use bitmapped fonts in browsers (although another commenter claims you can – i don't know either way).

I'll have a look at Bits'N'Picas, thanks for the heads up!

Re: Convincing-looking 90s fonts in modern browsers

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I need to send this to the people who designed the website for one of my favorite local pizza places, Dino's ( https://www.dinostomatopie.com/ ) -- they did _really_ well, generally, but no matter how hard you try, some things come through: the fonts rendered as text are perfectly crisp at whatever absurd DPI this Chromebook has.

https://www.lingscars.com/ Also comes to mind as too perfect on the font rendering side of things

Re: Convincing-looking 90s fonts in modern browsers

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Amusingly, i have antialiasing disabled in Windows 10 (though sadly not everything respects the setting - but Firefox does) and it took me a while to realizing what was going on :-P.

But then i thought to try enabling it and it turns out it looks blurry here (100% scaling in case anyone wonders, since i saw others mentioning non-100% scaling). Firefox, Windows 10.

I wonder if it has anything to do with cleartype settings or whatever.

Re: Convincing-looking 90s fonts in modern browsers

#86
post #66

Impressive research work (and results)! I actually went through the same experimentation when I worked on the fonts and the website at https://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/ . I ended up with a slightly different solution - the Bits'N'Picas converter, which works very much like potrace-pixelperfect, and takes either .png or actual bitmap fonts as input: https://github.com/kreativekorp/bitsnpicas . What would be ideal…

Oh wow, i've stumbled on your site before. It's a masterpiece, and was definitely an inspiration for the work we talk about in this blog post. Super interesting, what you're saying about the OpenType Sanitizer – i'd wondered why it appears you can't use bitmapped fonts in browsers (although another commenter claims you can – i don't know either way). I'll have a look at Bits'N'Picas, thanks for the heads up!

Thanks, appreciated! I'm planning an update soon - speaking of which, I might take a page from your own site with the custom scrollbars. :)

AFAIK bitmapped fonts can be rendered in-browser, but only if they're installed on the host (aka the 'old' way), not as css webfonts. Embedding bitmap strikes in a TrueType font is a neat trick used by e.g. Terminus, and by many CJK fonts shipped with Windows, etc., but the browser sanitizer thing just strips them - more info here: https://stackoverflow.com/a/57930594

(Unfortunately this type of font has its pitfalls even outside of the browser. E.g. Windows makes you jump through a completely unreasonable series of hoops to make them work: https://int10h.org/blog/2016/01/windows-cleartype-truetype-f...)

Re: Convincing-looking 90s fonts in modern browsers

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I know in the Blink engine (eg: Chromium) I've seen it render various Asian typefaces without any anti-aliasing, eg: Dotum (including the Latin characters). I've often wondered why that is.

Perhaps whatever causes that rendering might be of use in cases like this, since it would also allow zooming/higher font sizes.

Edit: although it may only display as such on Windows only, come to think of it.

Re: Convincing-looking 90s fonts in modern browsers

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I know in the Blink engine (eg: Chromium) I've seen it render various Asian typefaces without any anti-aliasing, eg: Dotum (including the Latin characters). I've often wondered why that is. Perhaps whatever causes that rendering might be of use in cases like this, since it would also allow zooming/higher font sizes. Edit: although it may only display as such on Windows only, come to think of it.

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Re: Convincing-looking 90s fonts in modern browsers

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post #50

I need to send this to the people who designed the website for one of my favorite local pizza places, Dino's ( https://www.dinostomatopie.com/ ) -- they did _really_ well, generally, but no matter how hard you try, some things come through: the fonts rendered as text are perfectly crisp at whatever absurd DPI this Chromebook has.

>the fonts rendered as text are perfectly crisp

Didn't you read the note at the bottom?

"This site is best viewed with Netscape. Download v4.7.2 by clicking here."

Clearly, you didn't follow the instructions for best viewing experience!

Re: Convincing-looking 90s fonts in modern browsers

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post #50

I need to send this to the people who designed the website for one of my favorite local pizza places, Dino's ( https://www.dinostomatopie.com/ ) -- they did _really_ well, generally, but no matter how hard you try, some things come through: the fonts rendered as text are perfectly crisp at whatever absurd DPI this Chromebook has.

My god, they even have a working link to a zip file containing a Netscape Navigator exe. I hope that's on a CDN.

It's not, the download failed several times for me.

When it finally worked, I was disappointed to see that I couldn't get it to run on Win 10 (64-bit).

(It does appear to be a Windows executable, though)

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