I’m confused ... this says Andorra has >15k people working at dev agencies. The country has a total population of I feel like these numbers don’t add up.
Yeah, this sounds like an artifact of some kind of tax shenanigans rather than a real number
Doubt it. Andorra’s official numbers are still under 100k residents even counting the for-tax-purposes residents.
There are for sure not 15k devs there. I’ve been to Andorra and visited a few meetups. They had very few people in attendance.
Yeah, this sounds like an artifact of some kind of tax shenanigans rather than a real number
Doubt it. Andorra’s official numbers are still under 100k residents even counting the for-tax-purposes residents. There are for sure not 15k devs there. I’ve been to Andorra and visited a few meetups. They had very few people in attendance.
Yeah, I'm thinking the simpler answer here is that this data is basically trash. Based on some of the other comments in this thread, it really seems like it is not a good quality survey with pretty poor quality control.
It reports fewer agency developers in China than in Andorra. The difference between the two represents 1% of Andorra's total population and 0.7E-4% of China's.
I oversee the hiring of dev shops for a mid-sized company in the US and the rates for e-commerce/web development are all in the $120-$150/hour range. The funny thing is that some of these companies outsourced to the Ukraine and India and the rates didn't change. I would have thought that we would at least see some of the cost savings. Both companies that outsourced ended up being complete disasters (we are still clea…
Are these freelancer rates or bill rates to clients? Usually there's at least a 20% margin added to bill rates by agencies.
That's not the salary. That's how much the agency is charging for them.
I did a stint as a "contractor" at a body-shop consultancy back in the 90's, only a few years out of college. Although they did pay well compared to what I could get as a perm employee, they were charging THREE TIMES what they were paying me. The friction that this caused was a deal breaker: the project manager knew that I was costing as much as quadruple what their ordinary employees were costing them, and expected…
Early job in the 90s - first 'web' job (1998) - was earning around $40k - $20/hr (more or less). I was being billed out at $125-175/hr. Factor in a loaded cost for me with some 'benefits' (not much) and it was ... $30/hr? Being billed out at 4-6x your wage eats away after a while. I was given some motivational stuff about teams and overhead and such. I asked for an office with a door and $60k salary, and was rejected, so I left. Had they even just given me the office with a door, I'd probably have stayed, and life would have been a lot different. They had a new office building built to spec - with a cube farm, then a wall of offices with doors. Those were empty. "For future managers". I wasn't allowed in them - they sat there empty. :/
I oversee the hiring of dev shops for a mid-sized company in the US and the rates for e-commerce/web development are all in the $120-$150/hour range. The funny thing is that some of these companies outsourced to the Ukraine and India and the rates didn't change. I would have thought that we would at least see some of the cost savings. Both companies that outsourced ended up being complete disasters (we are still clea…
It would be interesting to know whether the same issues would exist outsourcing to a country such as New Zealand with less of a language and cultural barrier or if it is still largely the nature of remote agency work.
Anyone know why they gave a whole section to "Web" and omitted Ruby? Even C and Visual Basic are present.
Because these are agencies. They're often called in to maintain legacy systems, which don't get to use shiny new tech. Hence low or missing numbers for things like Ruby or React, despite their prevalence otherwise.
Ruby is definitely not new and shiny. There are plenty of long-lived Ruby on Rails projects that need to be maintained.
Makes sense not seeing React, though. It is far more complicated and fragile to get SEO-friendly pages rendered with React (and there aren't many legacy systems that use it, either).