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Re: Firefox 76

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Post by vezycash »

jhymn wrote: post #55
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...how often do you start up Firefox? I don't think I've ever seen this. I generally loath automatic updates, but IMO web browsers are the one place they make sense. If you need something a bit slower, consider switching to Firefox ESR!

I don't use Firefox often because of the constant updating that prevents me from using it right away. Chrome and Brave don't seem to do that, at least not in the same obvious way that Firefox does.

You can use ESR[0] version of firefox the equivalent of LTSB windows. Or use a registry hack[1] to disable updates for regular firefox if you use Windows.

0. https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/68.8.0esr/ 1. https://winaero.com/blog/disable-updates-firefox-63-above/

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

dstaley wrote: post #79
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #76

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> also, better default form input styling would be nice. it's so...Windows 98....but i'm on Windows 10. :\ Google and Microsoft seem to agree with you, but I totally don't get it! If the website doesn't specify a style, my browser should fall back to a design that matches my OS, not whatever the browser developer thought was pretty! And if Windows is coming back and telling the browser to use Windows 98 styled button…

> The underlying problem is Windows suggesting Windows 98 styled buttons I'm almost positive that Firefox doesn't use OS-native controls; they've specifically styled their controls to look the way they do, so yes, this is a Firefox problem, not a Windows problem.

Really? The reason I assumed otherwise is that, the buttons on Mac look like Mac buttons to me. And furthermore, the buttons on my Mavericks Mac (pre Apple's flat redesign) look different than the ones on my High Sierra Mac.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by ttctciyf »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #30

> The shadow around the address bar field is reduced in width when a new tab is opened; I mean, at least they're trying, I guess. Still seems to me like lipstick on a pig. I'm still trying to figure out what UX problem the expanding bar was intended to address.

In the last update (75) I had this bizarre problem that any amazon.co.uk links in my history weren't showing up in the "most used links" that the url bar is usually populated with if you click the down arrow (or in this update where the down arrow used to be)

I have a browser profile that is used almost exclusively for amazon content as well. The most visited links in that profile are amazon.co.uk and prime video but the only "most frequent" links it would show were on twitch and the occasional youtube page I visited to find trailers for amazon hosted videos.

When I went to about:config and toggled the four "update1" bools to false, amazon came back in my "most frequent" links.

Pretty strange, eh?

Edit: so I just installed 76, and switched the four "browser.urlbar.update1" bools that enable this back to "true", and again, any amazon.co.uk links are removed from the list I get when clicking on the empty urlbar.

I don't really care about the ugly styling, but since this is a navigation feature I use extensively, I'm turning the whole thing off again. Hope they fix (or document) this before the choice disappears!

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by dblohm7 »

dstaley wrote: post #79
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> also, better default form input styling would be nice. it's so...Windows 98....but i'm on Windows 10. :\ Google and Microsoft seem to agree with you, but I totally don't get it! If the website doesn't specify a style, my browser should fall back to a design that matches my OS, not whatever the browser developer thought was pretty! And if Windows is coming back and telling the browser to use Windows 98 styled button…

> The underlying problem is Windows suggesting Windows 98 styled buttons I'm almost positive that Firefox doesn't use OS-native controls; they've specifically styled their controls to look the way they do, so yes, this is a Firefox problem, not a Windows problem.

They are not OS-native, but they use OS theming information.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by Nas808 »

snowron6 wrote: post #75
RandomBacon wrote: post #72

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They should just put a toggle for it under the Customization page. I think that would be the simplest way to placate peope that dislike it. (Yes I know you can about:config to fix it, but a toggle makes more sense.)

What do you change in about:config to change it? It's been driving me crazy since they implemented it.

browser.urlbar.update1 set to false will disable it, but that option is being removed in FireFox 77.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by st3fan »

influx wrote: post #11

Firefox made a huge mistake following in Chrome's trail with the version numbering scheme. I just don't care about Firefox 76, is it a big change? Is there some new feature I would want to try? Who knows, I'm sure Firefox 77 will be out soon though!

You are like _eight_ years too late with that discussion ... trust me, it has been extensively covered :-)

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by [deleted] »

the_pwner224 wrote: post #21
narag wrote: post #3

Anybody using Firefox password manager that can comment on it? Is it considered safe enough? Are the passwords stored remotely if you have multi-device profiles? Edit: I asked because I see that some of the updats are related.

Its just the browser's normal 'save password' thing, but now with great UI for managing saved logins. E2E encrypted with your Mozilla account password. If you forget your password and lose/reset every device that you have firefox installed on, you will lose the database. The firefox lockwise app is a login db replicator/ui for devices you don't want a full FF install on. I've been using it for years since, again, its…

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Re: Firefox 76

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Post by prophesi »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #71
prophesi wrote: post #64

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It's just the HN effect; complain about the most minute details. Firefox simply wanted it to be more obvious that the address bar is in focus the moment you open a new tab.

Reddit was pretty annoyed too. I actually did a little real-life poll ( I admittedly might care about minute details too much!), and everyone was either indifferent or negative. Indifference was more common, but, is that really a good outcome? > Firefox simply wanted it to be more obvious that the address bar is in focus the moment you open a new tab. Is that it? Because I'm still trying to figure this out! I'm just…

Indifference shouldn't be surprising for a minute detail. I didn't even know about the feature until I saw this thread (clicking address bar expands it), since I normally immediately start typing once I open a new tab.

I'd even argue that indifference should be the goal when making design changes; make subtle changes over time instead of the complete overhauls that are common today.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by antisocial »

I just switched to Safari - to be able to set time limits to websites on my mac, as I am consuming too much news these days. This is not possible with Firefox as far as I know.

Re: Firefox 76

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Post by baal80spam »

narag wrote: post #3

Anybody using Firefox password manager that can comment on it? Is it considered safe enough? Are the passwords stored remotely if you have multi-device profiles? Edit: I asked because I see that some of the updats are related.

Maybe it sounds silly but make sure you have access to the email associated with your Mozilla account. I learnt the hard way after reinstalling Windows that Mozilla sends a confirmation email to this address when you set up Sync on a new system. It turned out that I had no access to this email anymore since the provider went out of business. I was told it's impossible to access my sync data. Thankfully I did not use it to store any passwords (I use KeePass for that) because otherwise it would have been a catastrophe.
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