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Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

#81

I use meet professionally on a daily basis as my company is a GApps for business customer and most people I talked to are pretty satisfied. Sound, connection and video quality is very good, far better than Slack in my opinion. We had meetings with more than 100 paticipants. Integration in Google Calendar is also a big plus. One pretty minor thing that bothers me is that the webcam and mic mute toggles and the hang up…

Ctrl+d toggles the mic

That's the shortcut I use for bookmarking, get off my lawn.

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

#82
Ok, sorry for being dumb. Is Google Meet actually an entirely new service, or just re-branded Hangouts?

When I make a calendar event and choose to add video meeting to it, it's now a Meet, when it used to be a Hangout.

My experience with Hangouts (as recently as a week ago) was rather poor. Is Meet actually good/better?

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

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I don't have the mental space to waste filling it with details of another Google communication product they are going to discontinue in a year.

Google products ( and other tech company products ) are discontinued when they don't take off. Meet has a 100 million daily call participants. And really with video conferencing product, I don't get the whole trope of "but they might discontinue it." - the utility is immediate in terms of the calls that you make with it, and time boxed till by when a call ends.

Reader?

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

#84

I don't have the mental space to waste filling it with details of another Google communication product they are going to discontinue in a year.

Google products ( and other tech company products ) are discontinued when they don't take off. Meet has a 100 million daily call participants. And really with video conferencing product, I don't get the whole trope of "but they might discontinue it." - the utility is immediate in terms of the calls that you make with it, and time boxed till by when a call ends.

There's also the product "treadmill" for chat and video apps that Google and Microsoft have had over the past handful of years.

There is buy-in even for a chat app. I often have to shuffle browsers, may or may not have to install something, have to judge if the other person is interested in trying new software. Does everyone have a Google account? If I'm joining someone else's meeting, what's the process? Is there a meeting id? Password? URL?

I think "mental space" is quite appropriate.

Re: Google Meet premium video meetings–free for everyone

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> We do not allow anonymous users (i.e., without a Google Account) to join meetings created by individual accounts. Reminder: it is impossible to get a Google Account without giving your phone number (and thus permitting access your traditional identity information with it: name, street address, et c) to Google, who can then tie it to any existing Google cookies and your IP. Demanding that your communications partner…

it is impossible to get a Google Account without giving your phone number I just now tried the Google account creation process on an unactivated mobile device, and entering a phone number can be skipped. Entering a birthdate was mandatory.

Wouldn't that link the account to the device's hardware ID and by extension, all the other accounts you've made on that device?

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it is impossible to get a Google Account without giving your phone number I just now tried the Google account creation process on an unactivated mobile device, and entering a phone number can be skipped. Entering a birthdate was mandatory.

Wouldn't that link the account to the device's hardware ID and by extension, all the other accounts you've made on that device?

No? The web's security model does not expose such identifiers. The best you can do is fingerprinting, which is actively and continuously defended against by browser makers

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They definitely saw Zoom crushin' in an internal call. Hilarious. https://9to5google.com/2020/04/25/google-meet-zoom-competiti...

Wow, that must have been embarrassing. Also, from the article: > In some cases, though, many are just wondering how this service hardly anyone had heard of became so popular. Yeah, the first time I've heard of Zoom was when it landed on HN frontpage for doing some shady stuff on MacOS. Fast forward few months, my wife is asking me if I heard of it, because she'll have to start using it... I was similarly blindsided b…

TikTok was pouring money into ads hand over fist last year. Being targetted, you probably wouldn't have seen many if you aren't the right demographic and visiting the right sites.

Its rise is a sign that the Internet has become just another commodity platform where success is bought, not earned.

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G Suite domain owner and manager here, huge fan. Using zoom and meet a lot these days. Zoom’s voice prioritization is very nice compared to Meet. And if the Brady Bunch view is coming, I welcome it. My only other complaint is that my world (DoD health) blocks Most of G Suite.

Meet already has grid view, can show up to 16 people.

Does it ? I've looked and looked and looked for it. I'm not running Chrome/Windows though, so presumably I'm a second class citizen.

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> We do not allow anonymous users (i.e., without a Google Account) to join meetings created by individual accounts. Reminder: it is impossible to get a Google Account without giving your phone number (and thus permitting access your traditional identity information with it: name, street address, et c) to Google, who can then tie it to any existing Google cookies and your IP. Demanding that your communications partner…

How exactly would you get the traditional identity info like the address FROM A PHONE NUMBER?

In some countries you just can just call the phone company and ask. In Denmark you can just call 118, give the phone number and get the address back or use one of the numerous websites that taps into to the same data. Here is the result of a query using a random Danish phone number https://www.krak.dk/97405354/personer

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I work for Google, but not on anything related to Meet. I'm most excited about this because the video/audio quality is much higher. When I use Zoom with friends, everyone is usually 320x240, or maybe 640x480 if there's only one person. Doom was 320x240 in 1993. In Google Meet, I usually see people at 1280x920. A 4k monitor will fit 6 people at that resolution. I value this higher resolution because it makes me feel m…

Nice try, Larry.
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