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No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?

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Re: No-code founders are on the rise. Are they making money?

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Post by czstrong »

ryanSrich wrote: post #17
gumby wrote: post #5

I don’t really understand what “no code” is. You can put up a storefront and conduct business without writing a line of code, simply by adding plug ins to Wordpress, calling out to stripe etc. The result is somewhat templatized and slightly generic looking but that’s great: your value comes from the content, as the author correctly describes, and the visitor will presumably understand navigation etc. This kind of pro…

From what I can tell yes. It’s intended to imply something more. See bubble for example - https://bubble.io . It’s basically “visual” Rails. The intention is to allow users to build complex, interactive software visually, without having to write code. Webflow has a ton of plugins that can get you something similar. You can have a user model (memberstack.io) with authentication and even the ability to create user spec…

For me, no-code tools were the gateway to learn to code.

Build a site with a WordPress theme and ultimately end up editing the HTML and CSS to get the desired result that's not possible out of the box.

Add a plugin that doesn't quite meet my needs and end up learning PHP to edit the source.

For people that learn by taking apart what's there, no-code tools are excellent learning tools.

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Post by godzillabrennus »

gumby wrote: post #5

I don’t really understand what “no code” is. You can put up a storefront and conduct business without writing a line of code, simply by adding plug ins to Wordpress, calling out to stripe etc. The result is somewhat templatized and slightly generic looking but that’s great: your value comes from the content, as the author correctly describes, and the visitor will presumably understand navigation etc. This kind of pro…

The guy behind http://www.buildfire.com enabled companies to offer mobile apps without coding experience. He now has the means to race McLarens and sky dive religiously.

Unlocking human ingenuity while making our species less depending on learning to think like a computer is always going to be a big market.

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Post by rb808 »

There is something in-between where many engineers end up linking together a bunch PAAS and maybe a bit of front end to come up with a app or website.

In the old days you had to understand pointers and backups and efficient joins in your rdbms, the level of abstraction now is much higher.

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Post by contravariant »

gumby wrote: post #5

I don’t really understand what “no code” is. You can put up a storefront and conduct business without writing a line of code, simply by adding plug ins to Wordpress, calling out to stripe etc. The result is somewhat templatized and slightly generic looking but that’s great: your value comes from the content, as the author correctly describes, and the visitor will presumably understand navigation etc. This kind of pro…

Every time I've encountered it it's just textless programming. Typically these systems are either very limited or Turing complete.

The better ones acknowledge this and allow you to use code when you want/need to.

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Post by rhlsthrm »

PeterisP wrote: post #55
TuringTest wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When companies I work with look for no/low code, the only reason they will not use it is vendor lock in; if they cannot run on premise and/or ‘eject’ the code, they will not use it. Several products allow this What nocode tools don't have lock-in? The ones I know which are open source still have these proprietary add-ons for important stuff like authentication or connecting to other systems.

Conceptually some no-code tools work essentially as glorified editors or code generators for a particular subset of a mainstream programming language. In this case, at any point you can abandon the no-code tool for a project or part of it and continue maintaining and developing it as an ordinary bundle of code.

Which ones? As a dev, if I had one that ejected into readable React (Typescript) code I'd probably use it.

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Post by contravariant »

alexgmcm wrote: post #53

I think the future will be in "low-code" rather than "no-code". For example, Looker has LookerML which while it isn't full blown programming, it allows for a lot of customisation and far more complex use cases when compared with "no-code" alternatives like Tableau.

I will never get the rationale behind creating a new proprietary language solely to protect people from 'full blown' programming. Or, in some cases, being able to read/manipulate config files with standard tools.
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