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Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by dzhiurgis »

djannzjkzxn wrote: post #69
dzhiurgis wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saw some map showing Montana min wage is $4. Even if you use your phone 8hrs a day (a ton of people do for work), you own it for 24. So that's $24 a day. It all a bit pointless math for HN crowd, but it does give some perspective - there are places where pay is very low and you don't even need to look far. People do actual work on their phones there.

The US has a federal minimum wage of $7.25. Maybe some state has a lower minimum wage law, but if so it isn’t in force. If I were making minimum wage I’d probably be more in the “buy an iPhone SE every 4 years” rather than “buy a top iPhone every 2 years” category. But if I are going to critique other people’s spending patterns, I’d start with anyone who bought a new car, not a phone.

Someone has to buy them, but I always are shocked how people can afford them, especially at something like 10% interest rate.

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Post by foogazi »

Someone1234 wrote: post #8

The cheapest iPhone is also as expensive as some mid-range Android devices and completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population. When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap" you have to admire Apple's price anchoring[0], they release a $1249 flagship and suddenly what the largest iPhone 5S flagshp cost ($442.09 inflation adjusted to 2020) at launch is considered "cheap." It is undeniably a…

> completely inaccessible to a large chunk of the world's population.

You can say that about anything considered the “cheapest” in a group

- the cheapest new car - the cheapest new laptop - the cheapest new house

> When a device that most will spend $449 on is "cheap"

“cheapest” is not the same as “cheap”

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by SECProto »

pensatoio wrote: post #80
SECProto wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carrier data for phones is expensive. I use it to store media (podcasts and music) so I can pay for minimal monthly data. I bought a 128gb microSD card 3 or 4 years ago, meant I could save several hundred dollars (twice now!) by getting a mid-range phone with 64gb storage. Edit: for fun I did a quick cost comparison. I drive a lot and listen to music and podcasts. 40,000km a year. If I streamed, I would have to upgra…

I’m not sure this answers the question. I understand why having an SD card feels good, but in practice, you can fit tons of movies, music, and audiobooks in even just 64gb. It’s certainly a balance between all the factors that makes an SD card an attractive choice for you , but I think for the overwhelming majority of people, long-term updates/support are going to be far more valuable, even if they don’t realize it.

The question was, "what do you use the SD card for?". I answered. Other things you mentioned:

* I just checked, and my phone storage is actually only 32gb. I misspoke.

* It's quite close to full with just a month worth of pictures and all my audio stored on the SD card.

* My last security update was 3 weeks ago. The manufacturer who made my phone committed to 3 or 4 years of security updates. That said, Apple does a much better job of making feature updates available for their products.

* The article is about how "powerful" the processor is, and I would still contend that that is irrelevant for any cell phone user I know.

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Post by Anthony-G »

debian3 wrote: post #50
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #16

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It really depends on what support you need - yes, the latest and greatest bling is dropped soon, but Samsung offers 4 years of security updates - that's quite a bit of time. You'll probably have a really bad battery by that point and it's probably worth an upgrade. You won't have all the latest and greatest OS bling, but you wouldn't have the latest and greatest anything but that point, and that's probably OK.

I don’t understand; bad battery = phone replacement. Bad battery = battery replacement

Particularly so when you consider the environmental impact of new battery compared to new phone + new battery. The difference in price for the consumer does not reflect the true costs.

Re: Cheapest iPhone has a more powerful processor than the most expensive Android

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Post by cosmiccatnap »

All these chip spec articles never talk about the actual performance of the device. If you compare how snappy the UI of an apple and an Android device are they are roughly the same, why? Because apple still uses a modified Unix that is heavily dependent on single core performance while Linux has been very multithreaded for a long time which is why the actual functionality of the devices end up being the same despite the difference in chip performance.

The cheapest iPhone is still just an iPhone...and expensive.

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Post by neurostimulant »

SECProto wrote: post #41
D13Fd wrote: post #35

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Honestly, what do you use the SD card for? Even with movies for flights, I haven’t filled a phone up in years.

Carrier data for phones is expensive. I use it to store media (podcasts and music) so I can pay for minimal monthly data. I bought a 128gb microSD card 3 or 4 years ago, meant I could save several hundred dollars (twice now!) by getting a mid-range phone with 64gb storage. Edit: for fun I did a quick cost comparison. I drive a lot and listen to music and podcasts. 40,000km a year. If I streamed, I would have to upgra…

But current android phones support usb otg, right? If I need access to a lot of storage for media, I'll just put it into a usb stick and plug it on the phone when I need it. Sure it's not as convenient has having accessible 24/7 on the phone, but it's not like I'm going to watch movies often on the phone, only occasionally on long trip.

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Post by arkanciscan »

bzb3 wrote: post #45
TremendousJudge wrote: post #3

Tell me when it can use that powerful processor to run an engine other than webkit

From your tone I assume that even if Apple allowed you to run Gecko on an iPhone you would find another reason not to buy one.

There are many to choose from.

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Post by beamatronic »

bdcravens wrote: post #71
beamatronic wrote: post #55

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If you are using all the capabilities of your smartphone, it should be adding way more value to your life, than it costs. That's what makes smartphones indispensible - a huge ROI. Edit: Wanted to share a tip. If you are planning to buy an iPhone anyway, be sure to get Apple Card. You'll get a 3% discount on your purchase, and they will let you pay 24 equal monthly payments with no interest.

Aside from the 3% discount, aren't most carrier plans no-interest payment plans?

Because of well-documented abusive behavior towards customers, I recommend to anyone to really minimize any connections or dependencies with carriers. I don't trust the carrier enough to engage in any "discounts" or "deals" with them. I don't have time to untangle their games.

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Post by bdcravens »

beamatronic wrote: post #88
bdcravens wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aside from the 3% discount, aren't most carrier plans no-interest payment plans?

Because of well-documented abusive behavior towards customers, I recommend to anyone to really minimize any connections or dependencies with carriers. I don't trust the carrier enough to engage in any "discounts" or "deals" with them. I don't have time to untangle their games.

Fair enough. I've had good experiences with Verizon (their iPhones are all unlocked) but other carriers you do have to jump through some hoops if you want to leave etc.

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Post by SECProto »

neurostimulant wrote: post #86
SECProto wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carrier data for phones is expensive. I use it to store media (podcasts and music) so I can pay for minimal monthly data. I bought a 128gb microSD card 3 or 4 years ago, meant I could save several hundred dollars (twice now!) by getting a mid-range phone with 64gb storage. Edit: for fun I did a quick cost comparison. I drive a lot and listen to music and podcasts. 40,000km a year. If I streamed, I would have to upgra…

But current android phones support usb otg, right? If I need access to a lot of storage for media, I'll just put it into a usb stick and plug it on the phone when I need it. Sure it's not as convenient has having accessible 24/7 on the phone, but it's not like I'm going to watch movies often on the phone, only occasionally on long trip.

I did not mention movies once. I said music and podcasts that I use daily. My routine would look like following:

1. Get in car, plug in power and aux cable

2. Press play on (playlist or podcast)

3. Press start navigation on google maps

I'm glad that storage isn't a limitation for your use case, but for me they would be a major inconvenience that I can happily avoid by using an Android with an SD card

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