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Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by michaelcampbell »

rhizome wrote: post #15
myu701 wrote: post #2

So, I'm too young to have ever used IRC. This must be a biggish deal to make it #2 on HN homepage. But can someone put this in perspective of how big a deal this is? On a scale of 'Rando County Legacy ISP-provided email service' to 'Gmail' is shutting down, where does this lie? IRC is not email, etc. but again, never seen this community.

First of all, you're not too young for IRC, it's still out there! Lots of people! Lots of channels! Depending on your interests your usage could resemble a live-action Reddit. Second, I don't think this is necessarily a big deal, though I could imagine that channel users liked the convenience of having their channel logged for them. There may even have been an ersatz Slack use-case there that people could easily get…

> it's still out there! Lots of people! Lots of channels!

s/channels/code So is COBOL.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by hkt »

Geeflow wrote: post #77
airstrike wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If only I could build weechat from source on windows! If anyone out there is willing to provide binaries I'd be glad to buy you coffee so I can switch over from irssi mIRC is what got me into programming, actually... I miss the good old days

My first programming projects were scripts and modules for eggdrop. Every now and then I get a nostalgia flash. :) Surprisingly, some of those are still being used... 20 years after the last release.

Mine were mIRC scripts for banning spammers. Eventually we had a community of people writing bots in perl, PHP, and loads of other languages. I was introduced to Unix by means of wanting to run irssi in screen so I could collect messages even when I was offkyine. It is no exaggeration to say IRC is completely responsible for my career, far more so than education!

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by hkt »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #75
rasengan wrote: post #11

I just wanted to take a moment and share with the HN community that IRC is definitely very alive and kicking! There are great channels for thousands of amazing projects, communities and teams spread across so many great IRC Networks, from Freenode [1] to OFTC [2], to Rizon [3], to DALnet [4], to tildeverse [5], Snoonet [6], Quakenet [7], EFnet [8], IRCnet [9] among other networks [10]. IRC is no longer difficult to u…

Can IRC be used through Tor and with end-to-end encryption?

It depends on the network. Freenode has a tor ingress: https://freenode.net/news/tor-online

You can connect with SSL and optionally SASL (as well as cloaking your IP) but this is encrypted to the server. Most of IRC is public anyway though so E2E doesn't make total sense.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by mwest »

uniquelygeneric wrote: post #20
kgraves wrote: post #18

Can I use this on my iPhone? I haven't been able to find easy to use ones.

I prefer Igloo IRC, but finding a server and chatroom is an exercise you'll have to do on your own depending on what you are looking for. I would start with Freenode if you don't know where to begin.

The screenshots for Igloo look nice, but the developer responses to reviews are... entertaining, and concerning.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by graton »

airstrike wrote: post #27
rasengan wrote: post #11

I just wanted to take a moment and share with the HN community that IRC is definitely very alive and kicking! There are great channels for thousands of amazing projects, communities and teams spread across so many great IRC Networks, from Freenode [1] to OFTC [2], to Rizon [3], to DALnet [4], to tildeverse [5], Snoonet [6], Quakenet [7], EFnet [8], IRCnet [9] among other networks [10]. IRC is no longer difficult to u…

If only I could build weechat from source on windows! If anyone out there is willing to provide binaries I'd be glad to buy you coffee so I can switch over from irssi mIRC is what got me into programming, actually... I miss the good old days

Seems like you can run it under Windows Subsystem for Linux.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by Polylactic_acid »

djsumdog wrote: post #67
jdsully wrote: post #41

I don't really use IRC anymore but at the time I remember really hating loggers. Chats were informal and I really didn't like them showing up in google results and elsewhere. Not everything needs to be saved.

I run a mastodon server on the fediverse (distributed social networking over activitypub). Mastodon and Pleroma support deletes, but say you post something and someone boosts it and one of their followers sees it on a server your server blocks. You won't see their replies obviously (split thread) but if you delete the message, it gets deleted from your followers, but won't continue on to the server that your server b…

>I just treat the fediverse as a big chatroom/reddit thread that can never be deleted.

Treat the whole internet that way. You can't forcefully delete things from other peoples computers/minds. The best you can do is request.

I deal with this by posting almost nothing under my real name and switching usernames regularly.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by hkt »

andarleen wrote: post #55

I am surprised that privacy aware companies are not using IRC more for their intra company chat, and that none invested in a webcam voice chat client for IRC. Even the most basic server can handle thousands of clients.

I recall working at companies where the ops or DevOps teams would run their own IRC servers pre-slack. It was basically the only way to get stuff done if you had a desktop PC and needed to work closely with anyone. The problem is that most companies don't know how to do due diligence on a tool like IRC and the clients aren't very friendly. The lack of commercialisation of the space is what prevented companies from paying for it, and that meant no easy and rich clients got built, which meant it never got commercialised, etc etc..

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by jdsully »

overcast wrote: post #42
jdsully wrote: post #41

I don't really use IRC anymore but at the time I remember really hating loggers. Chats were informal and I really didn't like them showing up in google results and elsewhere. Not everything needs to be saved.

I'd stay off the internet then.

Simpler times my friend.

Re: Freenode IRC logging archive Echelog is shutting down

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Post by Polylactic_acid »

rasengan wrote: post #11

I just wanted to take a moment and share with the HN community that IRC is definitely very alive and kicking! There are great channels for thousands of amazing projects, communities and teams spread across so many great IRC Networks, from Freenode [1] to OFTC [2], to Rizon [3], to DALnet [4], to tildeverse [5], Snoonet [6], Quakenet [7], EFnet [8], IRCnet [9] among other networks [10]. IRC is no longer difficult to u…

IRC is still alive in the fact that people still use it, but its dying (less people use it over time) in a way that will never be overcome.

IRC is lacking so many critical features that people consider the fundamentals of IM now. IRCv3 has been in development for forever and they still aren't done and even if they finished it it would never make it to all the irc servers and clients.

At this point it makes sense to join most other open source projects in moving to Matrix which still has active development and the ability to actually push out new spec changes in the current decade.

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