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Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by redis_mlc » Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:02 AM UTC

cowmoo728 wrote: post #49

debaserab2 wrote: post #10

I'm also in CO and had COVID-19 like symptoms about a month ago (fever and GI issues without any other major symptoms for a week progressing into a dry cough/heavy breathing -- completely unlike any other flu I've had). I never got tested due to lack of test kits here in CO at the time and because my symptoms stayed manageable I never saw a health care provider beyond a virtual meeting to get a rescue inhaler. At the…

If I had a blood oxygen of 89% I would have gone to the emergency room immediately. That's 80 year old smoker with emphysema levels. If you were previously healthy that is far more serious than the "light" covid-19 that many people get, assuming the reading was accurate.

> If you were previously healthy that is far more serious than the "light" covid-19 that many people get, assuming the reading was accurate.

According to interviews with doctors, corona patients experience lower than normal oxygen levels without that being a problem, until it gets very low.

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by Der_Einzige » Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:06 AM UTC

EducandoLogic wrote: post #80

Hello , I have read somewhere the initial post of this thread and I am courious how he/she is going and a cuestion to all of you affected.... Did you ever had a pneumonia before COVID? Dont be afraid people! There are some news around the scientists that now are beeing paid to not ask cuestions, only a few do..... Be afraid of beeing forced or persuaded the get or take antiretroviral drugs combined with high doseage…

I cannot understand what you are saying.

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by icemelt8 » Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:07 AM UTC

EducandoLogic wrote: post #80

Hello , I have read somewhere the initial post of this thread and I am courious how he/she is going and a cuestion to all of you affected.... Did you ever had a pneumonia before COVID? Dont be afraid people! There are some news around the scientists that now are beeing paid to not ask cuestions, only a few do..... Be afraid of beeing forced or persuaded the get or take antiretroviral drugs combined with high doseage…

That was quite a ride, felt like reading a YouTube comment.

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by sandworm101 » Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:10 AM UTC

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #59

debaserab2 wrote: post #10

I'm also in CO and had COVID-19 like symptoms about a month ago (fever and GI issues without any other major symptoms for a week progressing into a dry cough/heavy breathing -- completely unlike any other flu I've had). I never got tested due to lack of test kits here in CO at the time and because my symptoms stayed manageable I never saw a health care provider beyond a virtual meeting to get a rescue inhaler. At the…

The U.S. has about 600k cases. One order of magnitude more is 6M cases. That's still very far from broadly spreading. It's worrying about the viability of the herd immunity theory (too few people had it), and opening the country soon (a few weeks of exponential case increases would overload hospital capacity, even after stemming the case growth through sheltering-- putting us back to square one). It feels, 1-2 months…

I'm in BC, Canada. People are talking about our lockdown going too well. The hospitals are not overwealmed like those in New York. Infections are under control, mainly contained to care homes. But you don't get to herd immunity if the virus does not spread. Vaccines are a year or more away. Holding the lockdown that long would devastate a generation. The government isn't saying it but people are deciding to head out on their own. Outside of urban centers, this Easter weekend looked almost normal.

I was at the grocery store today. Maybe 1 in 10 people had some form of mask. Tomorrow I go to work, where we aren't using masks either. We never did. I have some homemade masks but have never felt the need. There is virus in our area but it just isn't spreading at nearly the predicted rate given our relaxed "lockdown".

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by EducandoLogic » Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:13 AM UTC

Der_Einzige wrote: post #82

EducandoLogic wrote: post #80

Hello , I have read somewhere the initial post of this thread and I am courious how he/she is going and a cuestion to all of you affected.... Did you ever had a pneumonia before COVID? Dont be afraid people! There are some news around the scientists that now are beeing paid to not ask cuestions, only a few do..... Be afraid of beeing forced or persuaded the get or take antiretroviral drugs combined with high doseage…

I cannot understand what you are saying.

Then , if you arent a medicine, but german as I see,,, LINKERPRPAGANDIST ??!!, nur ein Verdacht,, so if , then read about retoviral medicaments,, NO science ,all they say is we assume that it avoided xz amount of people dying. Ther are no empiric studies.. its charlataneria concerning those meds and they are very toxic... understand now tiny bit the only one? Verdammt schnell bei der Stange, Hallo mit wem habe ich das Vergnuegen?

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by Der_Einzige » Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:17 AM UTC

Xenograph wrote: post #61

GhostVII wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are elderly than you should definitely fear death. But yes if you are under 50 it's more likely you will be killed driving to the hospital than by the virus.

> if you are under 50 it's more likely you will be killed driving to the hospital than by the virus. Apologies if this was intended to be hyperbole, but it is not true according to our current knowledge. Estimated fatality rate for adults 20-30 is 0.03%, 30-40 is 0.08%, and 40-50 and 0.16% [1] The probability of dying from one single vehicle ride to the hospital is several orders of magnitude less than 0.1% or even 0…

Don't forget that automobile fatalities are far lower now with significantly reduced traffic due to lockdowns. This analogy works without coronavirus existing and only then.

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by Enginerrrd » Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:18 AM UTC

mikekchar wrote: post #25

I've been struggling with health issues for the past 3 years. My heart races. My blood pressure spikes to dangerous levels. I get heart palpitations. I get pains in my chest. When it happens it's alarming and it's easy to fall into fear. I've gone to the hospital a few times absolutely sure I'm having a heart attack. But it seems that my heart is fine (as far as anyone can tell). I have a host of other problematic sy…

I hate to be that guy on the internet, especially since this is so unlikely, and since your description is also very consistent with anxiety/psych which is much more common...

...but particularly because you mention that this is a recent issue and not a lifelong deal, have you had a doctor rule out a pheochromocytoma? It's really unlikely since they're rare, (~1000 cases per year in the US) but they can cause the symptoms you are describing and it would tend to manifest in the age range of young adult to middle aged adult. And the labs needed to diagnose it aren't super routine.

But they way you described being totally fine until one day you weren't makes me have a stronger index of suspicion for a non-psychological cause.

This is super speculative, but there's a tiny chance it could help you since the treatment (surgery) is usually pretty definitive.

[Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheochromocytoma)

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by EducandoLogic » Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:23 AM UTC

alfor wrote: post #38

Things you can do if you have symptoms: - Sleep, it help your body build it's defense against virus - Zinc supplements, it slow down the virus propagation (you may also look into zinc rich food) The cloriquine is actualy helping zinc get into your cells and thus blocking the reproduction of the virus - Force fever in a hot bath: fever tell your body to go into virus defence mode (covid-19 has mechanism that calm your…

watch out people, these are Trolls , the one that commented you suggestions and the one that commentedmy suggestions or my doubts... The internet is Trolls playground.. and they seem to be very german... as I am , and watch out there are plentyspnish speaking Trolls in the WEB.

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by archagon » Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:26 AM UTC

whoisjuan wrote: post #8

DougN7 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know but I’ve become aware of just how difficult it is to remain pristine. Touch a door handle? After that did you touch your phone, keys or wallet at the store? Did you touch your car door handle? When you washed your hands, did you disinfect the faucet handle and soap dispenser after? It’s always a game of percentages even when you’re careful.

Yes. It's extremely hard. Clothes are especially hard. I have to take my dog out two times a day and I always try to use the same shoes and same hoodie for this activity. I wash them every other day, but that's a half-baked hygiene measure. In reality, the only way to be safe is to always wash all your clothing every time you go out, but with a dog, I find that pretty hard.

I mean, you'd also have to wash your dog, right?

Re: Fear and beauty: two weeks living with Covid-19

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL » Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:29 AM UTC

sandworm101 wrote: post #84

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The U.S. has about 600k cases. One order of magnitude more is 6M cases. That's still very far from broadly spreading. It's worrying about the viability of the herd immunity theory (too few people had it), and opening the country soon (a few weeks of exponential case increases would overload hospital capacity, even after stemming the case growth through sheltering-- putting us back to square one). It feels, 1-2 months…

I'm in BC, Canada. People are talking about our lockdown going too well . The hospitals are not overwealmed like those in New York. Infections are under control, mainly contained to care homes. But you don't get to herd immunity if the virus does not spread. Vaccines are a year or more away. Holding the lockdown that long would devastate a generation. The government isn't saying it but people are deciding to head out…

You can't enter my grocery store without a face covering. I didn't see anyone strictly enforcing it, but there was a >80% compliance rate, based off what I saw.