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Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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Post by dragontamer »

ethagknight wrote: post #63
ardy42 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Helps remind you not to touch your face [and precludes direct touch to mouth and nose--where mucus membranes are vulnerable]. I like these instructional videos about how to put masks on and take them off, because they emphasize that you should be washing your hands when you put the masks on and take them off. How to Put on a Surgical Mask: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWnTCZWYOBw N95 3M mask: How to Wear & Remov…

If the virus is present on your mask, it most likely would have already been in your body without the mask. NNTaleb: Asymmetry: error FROM NOT wearing masks is vastly costlier than the error FROM wearing masks. https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1244976894686179328?s=21 EDIT- I think I wasn’t clear— mask is critical protection, and the risk of infection from wearing one incorrectly is far lower than not having one at…

> If the virus is present on your mask, it most likely would have already been in your body without the mask.

On the contrary. The virus is on the mask. That's why doctors / nurses wear masks, so that the virus gets stuck in the mask instead of in the doctor.

Now that the virus is on the mask, you need to treat it as if it were a contaminated object.

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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Post by GordonS »

joering2 wrote: post #72
GordonS wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Helps remind you not to touch your face Hmm, I'm not sure about this one. Going to the pharmacy today, I noticed some people wearing masks, and just in the short time I saw them, many were adjusting/fiddling with their masks.

Mask will stop viruses getting through. Definitely adjusting mask is less hazardous than not wearing one and touching your face. Its interesting for me to just now notice how everyone constantly touches thier face all the time in some way or another. In this attempt by the US government to stop this pandemic I found their suggestion not to wear mask the most disgenuine of all, especially knowing that countries with h…

To be clear, I'm not disputing that masks could stop people expelling or inhaling infectious particles - it's just the claim about not touching your face that doesn't ring true to me.

I do however think that, in general, masks are more needed by healthcare workers. They are on the frontline of COVID-19, and have no choice but to get up close to infected patients - most normal people are able to practise social distancing.

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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Post by alexis_fr »

kareemm wrote: post #27

I feel like there's a good business here. Like T-shirts, I can see masks becoming another form of self-expression e.g. branded masks, funny slogans, etc.

Funky bicycle masks with colors or logos were often 30-80€ in 2016, and despite not being even FFP1. There is an opportunity, but there is also a feeling that health apparel should be bland and ugly if they are serious. It’s like wearing a suit at a programmer interview: Often a hint that one aspires more to the commercial side than the technical side, despite both being competent.

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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Post by stronglikedan »

anon102010 wrote: post #68
stronglikedan wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Non-medical masks don't keep stuff out. They just keep stuff in, so the only reason to wear it is to not spread your water droplets when you sneeze or cough. Medical masks keep stuff out, but are in short supply. I think I'm helping more by going with the recommendations and not wearing a mask. Some people feel better wearing them, and that's fine too.

False - hand to nose mouth contact is THE primary vector for this illness - masks are very effective in reducing this. Please stop spreading misinformation as it could lead to deaths.

I'm not spreading misinformation. Most people don't bother to wear the masks correctly, and they provide a false sense of security and overconfidence.

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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Post by yamrzou »

graposaymaname wrote: post #70

Quoting from the WHO/emergencies website[1] > If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019-nCoV infection. The World Health Organization still recommends that you wear masks only if you're taking care of someone with COVID-19. Why is it so? Like if the evidence is so clear, why aren't they advising the general public about this? (PS. non-native english speake…

Maybe to prevent a rush on surgical masks so that they are kept for health workers who need them the most?

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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Post by dumbfounder »

Great website, I just have one suggestion. Before the message to wear a mask have in big red letters: "DO NOT GO OUT IN PUBLIC UNLESS IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY! No mask is more effective than simply not being around other people. BUT, if you absolutely must go out..."

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

graposaymaname wrote: post #70

Quoting from the WHO/emergencies website[1] > If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019-nCoV infection. The World Health Organization still recommends that you wear masks only if you're taking care of someone with COVID-19. Why is it so? Like if the evidence is so clear, why aren't they advising the general public about this? (PS. non-native english speake…

The WHO is, unfortunately, not a reliable source. They've repeatedly lied throughout the course of this pandemic. This is probably a well-intentioned one to preserve the global supply of masks, unlike previous lies which served only to make China look good, but the bottom line is that you shouldn't trust what they have to say.

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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Post by btbuildem »

nyxtom wrote: post #3

US Surgeon General continues to recommend against this for some reason

They recommend against it, because recommending the use of masks would expose the universal lack of availability of even basic surgical masks. The on-demand system in the US cannot cope with events like this (no stockpiles).

So, they're recommending we don't use masks, so that more masks are available for medical professionals, so that when most of us get sick via community transmission (because we don't have masks), the medical professionals can also run out of masks while they treat us.

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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Post by grej »

graposaymaname wrote: post #70

Quoting from the WHO/emergencies website[1] > If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with suspected 2019-nCoV infection. The World Health Organization still recommends that you wear masks only if you're taking care of someone with COVID-19. Why is it so? Like if the evidence is so clear, why aren't they advising the general public about this? (PS. non-native english speake…

When all is said and done a serious re-evaluation of the WHO’s mission and actions during this pandemic needs to take place. When the world needed them most, they failed spectacularly.

In mid January they said that China had no evidence of human to human transmission despite Taiwan telling them otherwise, probably due to political reasons. They refused to declare a pandemic weeks after it was clear it was one, and even now they still insist on ignoring the data we have around masks.

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