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Re: New MacBook Pro series

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post #48

I never understood why the 13" version is such a second class citizen? Is it that different of a footprint that Apple can't fit the same technology in it... or is this Apple's plan?

The footprint is that different. The volume is smaller, but the HDD, optical drive, keyboard, trackpad, and several other parts stay the same size. Of course the smaller laptop is going to be less stocked with features.

And people expect to pay less for a 13" version...

Re: New MacBook Pro series

#84

I never understood why the 13" version is such a second class citizen? Is it that different of a footprint that Apple can't fit the same technology in it... or is this Apple's plan?

Probably because of overlap between it and the MacBook and the MacBook Air? Frankly, I'm amazed they still offer a 13 inch MBP (which is not to say that it isn't a good little machine, but that Apple likes to segment their market clearly) I can't see the prices and options at the moment, but it may be that the MBP is just a couple of hundred bucks more than the top end MacBook, which means that some people might stre…

> Frankly, I'm amazed they still offer a 13 inch MBP (which is not to say that it isn't a good little machine, but that Apple likes to segment their market clearly)

While true, it is their best selling laptop, I can imagine it happening in a few years once the air gets a few spec bumps and lowers in price.

Re: New MacBook Pro series

#85
post #18

Color me disappointed. I was hoping for: • Ditching the optical media for longer battery life • 4 cores in the 13" • Max RAM of 12 GB (this one isn't listed ... maybe?) • The higher resolution 1440x900 resolution in the 13" that the Macbook Air has Altogether it's a pretty wussy update. Basically it looks like the diff (on the 13" model, which is what I care about) is: • Faster CPU (finally!) • Thunderbolt port (coun…

I don't think the laptop versions of the Core i* have 3 memory channels (neither do the Socket-1155/1156 desktop versions), so 3x4GB of RAM would be a strange/suboptimal configuration. There probably isn't enough physical space in a 13" laptop for more than 2 modules anyway (unless you sacrifice battery or optical drive space). Even soldering them to the motherboard wouldn't save much space - I think all current 4GB…

Yep, those CPUs only support 8GB max.

See the Intel Core i7 2620M (the 2.7Ghz part in the high-end 13" model) spec sheet for example: http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=52231

Re: New MacBook Pro series

#87
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a bit disappointed because I wanted to fool with GPU programming and I think Nvidia is still the standard there: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4638324/nvidia-vs-amd-gpg... Does anyone have any experience with OpenCL versus Cuda?

you can't program cuda in os x anyway, apple only uses OpenCL. As far as I know, os x doesn't support OpenCL on the intel graphics chips either

The people in this forum would be very surprised you can't program Cuda on Mac OS X :)

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showforum=75

Re: New MacBook Pro series

#88
post #76
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thunderbolt and FaceTime HD aren't exactly a speed bump.

Holding an event for that kind of minor change would be pretty pathetic and boring. It’s also not exactly great demo material.

I agree with you but...

It wasn't that long ago that we had a "day you'll never forget". Though, I wouldn't blame if you if ..ahh..forgot about that.

Re: New MacBook Pro series

#89
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because a lot of people here use a MBP as their main development device, at least from what I've seen in the comments. However, this topic being near the top of the front page does amuse me, because I saw several accusations of HN having a strict anti-Apple bias. That's not to say that there's a strict pro-Apple bias, however, just that the community seems to be genuinely split.

> the community seems to be genuinely split. Or nuanced, perhaps? I mean, I am very opposed to everything iOS because of politics, but I am very pleased with my MBP. I don't need to downvote Apple's announcement of new MBPs just because I don't agree with the politics surrounding iOS.

Yeah, I was a little vague there. I didn't mean to imply that people interested in MBP would be supporting everything done in iOS, just that there was not a simple pro- or anti- Apple opinion here. Thank you for explaining that better than I did.

Re: New MacBook Pro series

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post #71
post #18

Color me disappointed. I was hoping for: • Ditching the optical media for longer battery life • 4 cores in the 13" • Max RAM of 12 GB (this one isn't listed ... maybe?) • The higher resolution 1440x900 resolution in the 13" that the Macbook Air has Altogether it's a pretty wussy update. Basically it looks like the diff (on the 13" model, which is what I care about) is: • Faster CPU (finally!) • Thunderbolt port (coun…

>Thunderbolt port (count on buying another $30 display adapter like every generation) Existing (edit: mini)displayport adapters will work. Per the Apple Thunderbolt site ( http://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/ ): "And because Thunderbolt is based on DisplayPort technology, the video standard for high-resolution displays, any Mini DisplayPort display plugs right into the Thunderbolt port. To connect a DisplayPort, DVI, HD…

Yes, and you can pick up a cheap $7 mini-display port to DVI connector from Monoprice.com. I'm using one now to connect my early 2010 MBP to an el-cheapo Dell 22" LCD.
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