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Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #26

All of these shutdowns, especially the large ones recently announced, raise the question: how long? How long do we continue and what criteria will be used to begin opening things back up? How long before other parts of the economy begin to fail?

Until there's a vaccine this is all "flattening the curve" trying to limit the overall number of severely sick individuals to a level that they can get hospital care.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw the Joe Rogan clip[1] and I agree that Michael Osterholm's analysis of this seems correct when it comes to the United States. Denmark however has a completely different structure socially. All private sector employees who can work from home are urged to work from home. All public sector employees who are not working in any matter-of-life-and-death function are forced to stay at home. The public sector employees…

Wait, how would this prevent health care workers with children from needing to be home? Who is going to be watching those kids while the parents are working at a hospital?

The parent thats not working at a hospital

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#83
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean that they do not catch the virus or that they do not have any severe symptoms but can still transmit?

He means the former, but it's actually the latter.

Isn't it both? Kids get it less often then adults, if they do they have a lower mortality rate (0% in fact for kids source: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situati...

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw the Joe Rogan clip[1] and I agree that Michael Osterholm's analysis of this seems correct when it comes to the United States. Denmark however has a completely different structure socially. All private sector employees who can work from home are urged to work from home. All public sector employees who are not working in any matter-of-life-and-death function are forced to stay at home. The public sector employees…

Wait, how would this prevent health care workers with children from needing to be home? Who is going to be watching those kids while the parents are working at a hospital?

There might be some cases where watching the kids for them is difficult, but most likely the local hospitals already have an idea for this for the minority of employees whose single parent or both parents work in healthcare. Usually their partner can help out.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#86
post #61

About time... They might be able to reduce R0 < 1 and be done with the pandemics in 3-4 weeks. On the other hand, Spain and Germany are going to blow up next week, Italy-style.

What makes you think that? Seriously asking, because I don't see that risk right now. Also, if it does blow up like Italy we will just have to take it up from there, no point in arguing about the past.

This Reddit thread over at /r/europe has pretty compelling visualizations:

https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/fguile/germany_vs_i...

Germany lags 8 days behind Italy, Spain 7 days.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

Our kindergarten is currently preparing for just that. Which parents have other options of day care, who can have kids at home, who can take additional kids. I understood that to be something city wide. I have no problem having three instead of two kids at home, I working from home anyway, so if I have my own kids or an additional one doesn't make much of a difference for me. But it does for other parents.

If you know any parents that need help, some resources here: https://www.modulo.app/covid19

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#88
post #61

About time... They might be able to reduce R0 < 1 and be done with the pandemics in 3-4 weeks. On the other hand, Spain and Germany are going to blow up next week, Italy-style.

> and be done with the pandemics in 3-4 weeks

Unlikely... even if they could wave a magic wand and wipe out the disease in Denmark entirely they are just going to be re-infected via people from other countries.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw the Joe Rogan clip[1] and I agree that Michael Osterholm's analysis of this seems correct when it comes to the United States. Denmark however has a completely different structure socially. All private sector employees who can work from home are urged to work from home. All public sector employees who are not working in any matter-of-life-and-death function are forced to stay at home. The public sector employees…

Wait, how would this prevent health care workers with children from needing to be home? Who is going to be watching those kids while the parents are working at a hospital?

Most children have two parents. The few cases where both parents work in health care they most likely have immediate family and/or friends who are either public workers or private sector workers who can work from home.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

#90
post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

Schools will be open for children with parents who have critical jobs. So it’s not really an issue.

No they wont, schools will shut fully down. For ppl that rely on child care, and cant do it themselves, something will be provided. But the schools are not it.
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