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Anybody know if there is a safe for work version of this? I would like to share it with my colleagues but the choice of language means I can't.
Not the same, but maybe what you want: https://www.flattenthecurve.com/ To avoid TL;DR, search for boxes with green or red background centered text -- that's recommendations of behaviour.
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"Blunt" just comes off as puerile. Why should I take you seriously when you talk like a teenager.
This is totally alien to me. I could understand - though not relate - if you were offended, or just thought the use of the word "fuck" here was awkward or tonally inconsistent. But "puerile" and "why should I take you seriously" and "you talk like a teenager" is an absolutely ridiculous reaction to me. I've honestly not met a single person in all my life who reacted like that to a superfluous curse word.
> Do not use public transportation if not absolutely necessary.
Yeah, cause everyone lives within walking distance of their jobs.
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> blaming individuals Or is it encouraging individuals to start making more of a grassroots effort to effect change for their own sakes, rather than sitting around waiting for the people with little to gain and much to lose in enacting more human policies to suddenly have a change of heart?
it reminds me of climate change, pushing blame onto individuals while corporations and governments continue business as usual. sure, recycle that bottle. quarantine yourself. but in the grand scheme of things it makes very little difference compared to if corporations and governments took the actions necessary.
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Tests are not free, not 100% accurate, and not 100% available. The doctor you called stupid is in control of exactly 0 of those factors, and has no effect on europes policy.
And Europe's policy needs to change. Nobody is saying dealing with this epidemic is going to be free. Yet the doctor is one of many who are dismissing the likelihood of somebody having coronavirus just because they haven't been to Italy. So yes, stupid.
Now the infected population is very small, so if too many non infected people is testes, the false positives would be much bigger than the true positives. So you would get a lot of people unnecessary in the hospital while they have a normal cold or flu.
Anyway, if the symptoms of a normal cold or flu are so bad that deserve hospitalization, the doctor will send you to the hospital even if it is not covid19.
[If you are in a risk group, get the flu vaccine. It will not protect you from covid19, but you definitively don't want to catch a bad flu while the hospital if full of covid19 patients.]
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Test, test, test. South Korea has tested 100.000 people. In Europe? Nobody is doing anything. You can't respond to something when you have zero idea what the scale is. We're literally seeing Europe stick its head in the sand.somebody comes in with flu-like symptoms, you fucking test. Psychosomatic doesn't matter, either you have the symptoms or you don't. And if you do, you test, test, fucking test. Not tell people t…
Tests are not free, not 100% accurate, and not 100% available. The doctor you called stupid is in control of exactly 0 of those factors, and has no effect on europes policy.
If my health care provider can try to sell me antibiotics despite a negative strep test, "just to be sure, because sometimes you get a false negative", then they're surely not ignorant of the phenomenon where tests are less than 100% accurate. (Perhaps they're just variably aware of it, depending on what the bean counters from the health care network's corporate office are telling them to do. But still.) And, if you take a "better safe than sorry" attitude regarding false negatives, then you're not too far off from realizing that not having the test is not that big of a deal, because you'd be telling people to stay home when they're sick in either case.
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> How are doctors this stupid? ... the doctor can't fucking say that you can't have it. What happened to evidence-based medicine? You clearly have no idea what youre talking about. When something 100x less severe than the coronavirus happens, there is an ABSOLUTE AVALANCHE of people calling in on the full spectrum of sickness, from psychosomatic, to actually sick but with the wrong thing, to actually sick with the ri…
Test, test, test. South Korea has tested 100.000 people. In Europe? Nobody is doing anything. You can't respond to something when you have zero idea what the scale is. We're literally seeing Europe stick its head in the sand.somebody comes in with flu-like symptoms, you fucking test. Psychosomatic doesn't matter, either you have the symptoms or you don't. And if you do, you test, test, fucking test. Not tell people t…
I'm in Catalonia, Spain.
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Tests are not free, not 100% accurate, and not 100% available. The doctor you called stupid is in control of exactly 0 of those factors, and has no effect on europes policy.
What I'd like to see doctors do differently is encourage people to treat their illness as if it were covid-19 regardless of the test result. If my health care provider can try to sell me antibiotics despite a negative strep test, "just to be sure, because sometimes you get a false negative", then they're surely not ignorant of the phenomenon where tests are less than 100% accurate. (Perhaps they're just variably awar…
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Tests are not free, not 100% accurate, and not 100% available. The doctor you called stupid is in control of exactly 0 of those factors, and has no effect on europes policy.
What I'd like to see doctors do differently is encourage people to treat their illness as if it were covid-19 regardless of the test result. If my health care provider can try to sell me antibiotics despite a negative strep test, "just to be sure, because sometimes you get a false negative", then they're surely not ignorant of the phenomenon where tests are less than 100% accurate. (Perhaps they're just variably awar…
This is a viral illness. There is simply no treatment. You go home, rest and eventually get through it in most cases. If you have annoying symptoms, you try to alleviate those in the usual ways (as if it was any other cold/flu). If you get life-threatening symptomps, you call for help and they'll take you to the hospital (at least while they aren't completely collapsed).
What would you like the doctor to say or do here?