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Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
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Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#82It was incredible to me how aggressively Microsoft came out supportive of the Chrome team and how loudly they discussed the wonderful amount of collaboration the two companies had been up to since starting work on the new Edge. I've seen Googlers responding to Edge developers about how they'll get some mishandling of Edge fixed internally at Google. But really, this is just the same story as before: The "oops" have b…
>The "oops" have begun... Try running gmail in firefox. It's abysmal. A single click takes a few seconds to open email. This is malice, not incompetence. And I'm not even going to get into the whole endless captcha on firefox 'feature'.
I have been using gmail for quite long time. It is getting ridiculously terrible these days (in the past couple of years I guess!)
My old laptop fans go crazy when I launch chrome. It’s too much heavy for a mail client.
It’s remarkable how we suck at writing software in the past years.
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Okay, I get it, but in that case the marketing is doing engineering a disservice when they implement needlessly aggressive and redundant advertising of Chrome on properties and user agents which ought to be almost 100% identical functionality in Chromium based (if not web standards compliant) browsers. To put it plainly I can understand if Google promotes Chrome when there is a genuine technical feature on one of the…
> marketing is doing engineering a disservice I've never seen a company where both marketing and engineering agree on something. Marketing thinks we are a bunch of nerds and we think marketing floors have a much less density regarding neurons per square meter (so, in way we are both right). By the way, marketing always win. They are closer to upper levels, the credit for success is (supposedly) theirs. They suggest a…
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Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#84YouTube and Google Maps are much slower for me in Firefox versus Chrome. Many times the page basically freezes for half a second, and then suddenly continues. It looks like they intentionally are doing something to make this happen, I can't think of any other site where I've seen this obvious difference.
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes... but their whole spiel was that they were the anti-MS. But now they are becoming a more insidious version of the MS they railed against.
I don't get why you're being downvoted. They're just out-microsofting Microsoft :-)
are they taking open standards and putting extensions on them that are proprietary so users can only access certain services with chrome?
if not, then they are not doing any microsofting of any kind
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another thing: every single time I use Google to search for a Firefox extension such as uBlock Origin or anything else that is available on both browsers, the equivalent Chrome extension is consistently the first result. It knows my user agent. It knows very well that the Firefox extension is the relevant result. This is 100% done out of malice.
I really, really, suspect that the Google search isn't even close to that smart, that active malice comes in. Pure statistics would put the Chrome version of something higher than the Firefox version due to sheer weight of user-base. Nor are user-agents in any way reliable.
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Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree. Perhaps the old user agent sniffing, from that recent age when Edge was NOT Chromium, is still mostly in place. This seems like the more likely reason to me.
These are new changes. Edge based on Chromium has been available for over a month publicly and in beta much longer. And these examples have just happened, and been introduced in the past week. Google is actively writing checks for the new Edge and implementing new scare tactics claiming their nearly identical browser that gives them data on you is more secure.
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Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#88It was incredible to me how aggressively Microsoft came out supportive of the Chrome team and how loudly they discussed the wonderful amount of collaboration the two companies had been up to since starting work on the new Edge. I've seen Googlers responding to Edge developers about how they'll get some mishandling of Edge fixed internally at Google. But really, this is just the same story as before: The "oops" have b…
>The "oops" have begun... Try running gmail in firefox. It's abysmal. A single click takes a few seconds to open email. This is malice, not incompetence. And I'm not even going to get into the whole endless captcha on firefox 'feature'.
Another voice of an unaffected FF user here. Emalis open in sub 1 sec in FF for me, both free Gmail and paid GApps accounts. EVen went back a we pages of emails and clicked at random, all <1 sec easily.
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#89I can't imagine this will play well in court in the seemingly inevitable antitrust case. Microsoft's lawyers will point out that Edge is literally the same
Re: Google Chrome's fear of Microsoft Edge is revealing its bad side
#90It was incredible to me how aggressively Microsoft came out supportive of the Chrome team and how loudly they discussed the wonderful amount of collaboration the two companies had been up to since starting work on the new Edge. I've seen Googlers responding to Edge developers about how they'll get some mishandling of Edge fixed internally at Google. But really, this is just the same story as before: The "oops" have b…
If you're ever wondering how much data Chrome sucks out of you, the amount of effort Google goes through to try to keep people from using even Chrome-Edge, let alone Firefox, should give you a rough idea. Microsoft probably won't be much better though in the long run...
This is why I switched to Firefox years ago and have never looked back. I already have enough low-grade anxiety from trackers and whatnot sucking my data, I can't deal with an entire browser that exists solely to gather data.
The fact that so many of us in the development community, who are particularly sensitive to privacy concerns, unashamedly use Chrome continues to baffle me. I had one guy on Reddit tell me he feels really bad about knowing how little privacy he has using Chrome, but that he continues to use it because the font kerning on Chrome is slightly better.