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Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by baud147258 »

jasonkester wrote: post #43
thaumasiotes wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do Parisian convenience stores close at night? Chinese urban convenience stores don't; even here in the American suburbs CVS is open 24 hours, and so is Safeway.

I think you’re getting some resistance below because the answer to your first question is Yes. Not just “Yes, they close at night”, even. The entire American mentality revolves around everything being available all the time, so it’s really jarring to come over here and see the equivalent of a 7-Eleven closing for two hours at lunchtime, half of Saturday and all of Sunday and Monday, and calling it a night at 7 on oth…

Well, there's a few time where the supermarket that closed at 10 pm around the corner in Paris had been really useful.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by esotericn »

toohotatopic wrote: post #13
roel_v wrote: post #3

At the same time, there is a 30m2 (323 sqft) Parisian apartment for sale for e1.2mm (USD 1.3mm). Not sure these things are quite compatible...

At 1% interests rate, that's e12.000 a year, e1000 a month. Not bad.

A 25 year repayment mortgage with 0% interest is 4% a year (1/25).

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by agumonkey »

hbbio wrote: post #76
_Microft wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Paris not issue parking permits to craftsmen? German cities offer special parking permits to businesses that need to have unwieldy or heavy gear with them at their customer's place. The yearly fee is in the low hundreds (maybe 250€ even in the larger cities) and usually includes free parking and that even in places where most people normally would not be allowed to park at all, e.g. on Anwohnerparkplätzen (resid…

> Does Paris not issue parking permits to craftsmen? No

I heard it was free.. odd.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by agumonkey »

keiferski wrote: post #2

Paris needs to go one step further and remodel itself so that residents can have all their needs met—be they for work, shopping, health, or culture—within 15 minutes of their own doorstep. As someone that has spent a lot of time living in Paris, this is already pretty much true, at least within the Périphérique. The main issue in my experience is the lack of green space; there are surprisingly few parks in Paris.

Current mayor had big plans to turn large roundabouts at the city border into new green areas for pedestrians (since she wants few cars all around)

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by ThePhysicist »

That's essentially the concept of many cities in Europe. I live in Berlin for example and I have almost everything I need within 10 minutes of walking or 5 minutes of cycling: Supermarkets, pharmacies, doctors, restaurants, electronics stores, schools, kindergardens, ... The downside is that you tend to become used to your small microcosm ("Kiez" we call it) and rarely leave it. I can't recall for example when I went to East Berlin the last time, as distances can still be large and it can take one hour in public transit to go from East to West, depending of course where you want to go.

I also lived in Paris for more than 3 years and it also has great walkability, more so than Berlin even because the city center is much more compact (you can cross it by bike from North to south in 30-40 minutes I'd say). The metro is also super efficient, you can get everywhere "intra muros" in 30-40 minutes.

If you live outside of the center of Paris (which I also did for a while) it's less ideal though, as the public transportation quickly becomes much more sparse and you will need a car to get around easily. As most people in the Paris region actually live in those areas I'd say there's still much work to be done there.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by agumonkey »

tlear wrote: post #9

I am curious if the pickpockets still run rampant all over the tourist areas and subway. Few years back in 3 days: 1. Dad ran into undercover cop who on subway who told him to watch his stuff better :o 2. Got his phone stolen next day on subway, I guess cop was right 3. I witnessed the typical distract, grab and run.. good thing someone threw trip and got the runner to drop his prize 4. Had to deal with 3-4 typical:…

it used to be on TV every year but recently it's less the case. It may just be a media coverage shift since world events are "spectacular" these days.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by ScarZy »

It's quite refreshing to ensure that there's a push for this for the most part on HN, which is a rather affluent community. I'm not sure about the state of housing here too, but I am willing to wager that we live, for the most part, in a high density area.

Working to have all of our expectations for a good life walkable, scootable, or bikeable is the way we should be designing our cities.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by mattlondon »

esotericn wrote: post #80

This seems possible in many major metropolitan areas, with the significant caveat that in order to live it most would need their wealth to be unlinked from their earned income. Zone 1 and most parts of Zone 2 London close to stations are like this. I've just looked it up out of interest and it makes me feel fairly privileged! My flat has supermarkets, restaurants, a pharmacy, a bookshop, banks, a library, museums, on…

Yeah I think you nailed it with the idea of people wanting to live further out to get more space.

Dense urban living is fun when you are energetic (and probably young and probably single and probably with lots of like-minded friends) and you spend 95% of your time working and socializing, and you basically just use your home as somewhere to sleep and get washed in between the office and the bars/restaurants/gyms/etc

However, this is not the same for everyone. I dream of the day when I can live in a house with its own garden and where I am not physically sharing walls with other people's homes. At least in London you won't get that anywhere near your work unless you are absurdly wealthy.

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by raverbashing »

pi-err wrote: post #69

I live in Paris and whatever you think of the current mayor, this is pure marketing babble for the elections next month. Paris has always had this very dense city core where 99% of daily life is 5-10’ away. It’s a great concept for dense metropoles, but it only works because the city is so small: 100 square kilometers in an ocean of much lesser density. 80% of “Greater Parisians” live outside Paris itself. Unfortunat…

I agree with you and if there was a survey of problems (at the municipal level) the inhabitants think of as priority, the walkability of the city would probably not be their main priority (which, as noted, is good).

Re: Paris Mayor: It's Time for a '15-Minute City'

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Post by kaybe »

TomK32 wrote: post #44
tlear wrote: post #9

I am curious if the pickpockets still run rampant all over the tourist areas and subway. Few years back in 3 days: 1. Dad ran into undercover cop who on subway who told him to watch his stuff better :o 2. Got his phone stolen next day on subway, I guess cop was right 3. I witnessed the typical distract, grab and run.. good thing someone threw trip and got the runner to drop his prize 4. Had to deal with 3-4 typical:…

Put the valuable stuff into your trousers front pockets. I'm doing this for years, it works better than having anything in my back pockets. Though being 193cm tall might deter perps from trying something funny.

Petition to make women's pants with actual front pockets that fit more than 3 coins.
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