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Re: This person does not exist

#81

I noticed there are very few black people and none with very dark skin. But there are lots of people of many other ethnicities. Was dark skin avoided because it's inherently harder for the algorithm?

The training data contains examples of very dark skin: https://github.com/NVlabs/ffhq-dataset/blob/master/ffhq-teas...

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#82

There was a pic of an older guy, but what was unsettling was the woman peeking over his shoulder; like a friend or a family member, leaning into the photo. Her eyes were melting into black and white streaks curling down over her sagging cheeks; her smile was perfectly white, and just a little too long. I refreshed on instinct, and haven't seen anything like it since.

I saw something like that first one too!

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#85

There was a pic of an older guy, but what was unsettling was the woman peeking over his shoulder; like a friend or a family member, leaning into the photo. Her eyes were melting into black and white streaks curling down over her sagging cheeks; her smile was perfectly white, and just a little too long. I refreshed on instinct, and haven't seen anything like it since.

I've seen some of those before - the algorithm is a bit strange about people who hang around the edges of the border and sometimes create some fairly horrifying abstractions of humans

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I noticed there are very few black people and none with very dark skin. But there are lots of people of many other ethnicities. Was dark skin avoided because it's inherently harder for the algorithm?

The training data contains examples of very dark skin: https://github.com/NVlabs/ffhq-dataset/blob/master/ffhq-teas...

Interesting. I just refreshed the site 100 times to get a large sample size and the darkest skinned image it produced was this girl (https://i.imgur.com/ggJIG94.png). Her skin is much lighter than many of the people in that sample of the training data.

Assuming that that sample is representative of all the training data, it must be that the algorithm is 'choosing' not to produce images of dark skinned people. Perhaps because it isn't very good at them and 'knows' this? I wonder if there are other features it's deliberately avoiding?

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#89
post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So are you saying software developers should have to take the equivalent of a Bar exam in order to practice software development in a given state? That way ethical code violations have teeth because you can be debarred. As of now anyone and their dog can practice software development and I'm not sure what a nebulous "ethical code" would imply for them.

Arguably software engineering compared to engineering in a broader sense has a bigger issue with the “we did this because we could, not because we should” attitude. I feel like a “formalised ethical code” would result in more clever approaches of avoiding it. We don’t need to look far to find the examples (looking at ya ad tech)

But what's the incentive for doing that? What are you offering to those who work on adtech for them stop or to those who do work for $EvilCorp.

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arguably software engineering compared to engineering in a broader sense has a bigger issue with the “we did this because we could, not because we should” attitude. I feel like a “formalised ethical code” would result in more clever approaches of avoiding it. We don’t need to look far to find the examples (looking at ya ad tech)

But what's the incentive for doing that? What are you offering to those who work on adtech for them stop or to those who do work for $EvilCorp.

Moral decency doesn't warrant reward.
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