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Re: 1000 True Fans? Try 100

#81
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Taking this to extreme :) 100 True Fans ? try 1 Internet has enabled visibility so you need to only find one true fan who is willing to sponsor you 100,000 per year.

Actually that's how art has worked for a looong time. Most pre 19th century artists that we remember now had a rich patron who put food on their table (and possibly influenced what they did).

Re: 1000 True Fans? Try 100

#82
post #35
post #23

God these guys live in a bubble

" Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. " " Don't be snarky. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Well it is a good critical comment but the HN readers are part of the same bubble and don't realize it :)

Re: 1000 True Fans? Try 100

#83

Who in the hell is going to pay another individual $1000 a year to make content? That's more than a year's subscriptions to Disney+, Amazon Prime, and Netflix! One of the root ideas in the True Fans essay was a fan would be willing to spend a day's wage for a year's worth of content from a creator. A large portion of the population at large can pay a day's wage for say 52 hours (a creator spitting out and hour of con…

> Who in the hell is going to pay another individual $1000 a year to make content? That's more than a year's subscriptions to Disney+, Amazon Prime, and Netflix! The same people who pay thousands of dollars for self-help seminars and MLM schemes. You're missing why people are buying a product. All of the video streaming services out there combined won't help people get better at love or their career. That's why they'…

I pay $75 per week to my personal trainer and where I live trainers are cheap. People routinely pay hundreds per week in places like LA.

I’m not sure I’d pay that for an online trainer but if there are probably things a step or two away from workouts where I would pay for an internet mitigated version.

But that’s not being a fan, that’s buying a service.

Re: 1000 True Fans? Try 100

#84

The "passion economy" is flooding the Internet with low SNR material and making it harder and harder to get to high quality information. Creators create not to meet some sort of quota or "monetize" but because they need to create. It's the same for artists. True art exists because it has to come out no matter what. Monetization doesn't come into it at all. This is an important point that the passion economy vultures…

Monetisation is a cult in its own right.

The idea that everything has to be about the hustle is toxic and entirely insane.

Re: 1000 True Fans? Try 100

#85
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everybody should think deeply about ethics and act morally. Exploiting human beings is not okay. But the idea of "whales" is nearly universal in all lines of business, and there's nothing unethical about it unless your business is already operating in some kind of ethical gray area. If you are lucky enough to have customers at all, you will have some that spend 10x or 100x as others. The most obvious example would be…

Your examples aren't really of whales, because there's an upper limit on how much food/clothes you can get. The whale term was invented by casinos wasn't it? Where there's no upper limit to how much you can lose.

There's an upper limit to the amount that you can consume.

There is no upper limit on the amount you can pay.

Re: 1000 True Fans? Try 100

#86
post #47

1. The article shows a pyramid and it's important. In order to get a few "true fans" (people prepared to pay dearly for what you produce), you need a large amount of "distant fans" (people who like what you do, as long as it's free). The key word is conversion , and, regrettably, it's not present once in the post [0]. It's probably in the 1 to 0.1% range. [0] Edit: In fact it is (convert). However in the next paragra…

What is "Goop"?

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#87
post #47

1. The article shows a pyramid and it's important. In order to get a few "true fans" (people prepared to pay dearly for what you produce), you need a large amount of "distant fans" (people who like what you do, as long as it's free). The key word is conversion , and, regrettably, it's not present once in the post [0]. It's probably in the 1 to 0.1% range. [0] Edit: In fact it is (convert). However in the next paragra…

I get so many ads for courses on how to run ads for courses

Re: 1000 True Fans? Try 100

#88
post #55

Who in the hell is going to pay another individual $1000 a year to make content? That's more than a year's subscriptions to Disney+, Amazon Prime, and Netflix! One of the root ideas in the True Fans essay was a fan would be willing to spend a day's wage for a year's worth of content from a creator. A large portion of the population at large can pay a day's wage for say 52 hours (a creator spitting out and hour of con…

But you know, $1000 a year is only $84/mo, which is less than $4 per day. It's the price of a fancy starbucks coffee probably.

$84 is more than I pay monthly for Spotify, Netflix, the local newspaper, my broadband connection and occasional magazine buys combined. $1000 is more than I spend yearly on my biggest hobby - and that includes air travel and hotel fares. I have a really hard time coming up with any kind of content that'd be worth that much money.

Re: 1000 True Fans? Try 100

#89
post #47

1. The article shows a pyramid and it's important. In order to get a few "true fans" (people prepared to pay dearly for what you produce), you need a large amount of "distant fans" (people who like what you do, as long as it's free). The key word is conversion , and, regrettably, it's not present once in the post [0]. It's probably in the 1 to 0.1% range. [0] Edit: In fact it is (convert). However in the next paragra…

What is "Goop"?

An organization that sells snake oil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goop_(company)

Re: 1000 True Fans? Try 100

#90
post #47

1. The article shows a pyramid and it's important. In order to get a few "true fans" (people prepared to pay dearly for what you produce), you need a large amount of "distant fans" (people who like what you do, as long as it's free). The key word is conversion , and, regrettably, it's not present once in the post [0]. It's probably in the 1 to 0.1% range. [0] Edit: In fact it is (convert). However in the next paragra…

What is "Goop"?

Overpriced pseudoscientific junk products sold to gullible people and hyped by a minor celebrity obsessed with her vagina.
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