The music app is also really slow to boot up. Ten years ago it was automatic. Just a huge performance regression.
iOS 13's Music App Sucks
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#82I have both Apple Music and Spotify, and i also dislike Apple's Music app; First, it deleted ALL my playlists on a random day for no apparent reason, and i couldn't restore them from backups because apparently the playlists are stored in the cloud or whatever and not in a local file. Also, after converting my personal library to "iCloud", Apple replaced all my specific versions of songs with crappy alternative versio…
> Spotify's user interface is so much better, i can't understand how anyone would prefer Apple Music.
I've been very unimpressed with Spotify's iOS and iPadOS interface lately. I was OK with it for years when all I would do is either (1) tell it to play one of my playlists, or (2) find an album via search and tell it to play that.
Lately, though, I've been using Spotify to listen to music during timed activities. I know I'm going to spend N minutes on the activity, and want to queue up N minutes of music. So before starting the activity I go through my playlists picking songs and queuing them, or thinking of other songs that I'm the mood for, searching for them, and queuing them, trying to queue a little over N minutes.
Should be easy, right? From the song listing in a playlist or search, queue the song and keep a running total in my head of the times. Occasionally pop over to the queue view to check the total time.
Nope. That doesn't work because the stupid thing does not show the song times in playlist listing, search listings, or any other kind of listing I've found. The only way I know to find the length of a song is to start playing it and then look at the playback display which shows time elapses and time remaining.
Well, that's not quite true. You could also put the song by itself in a playlist, because it will show you the total length of a playlist.
The partial workaround is to make a new playlist, add the songs to that instead of the queue so that I can at least see the total time, and then queue the whole playlist when I've got my N minutes in it.
People have been asking for them to fix this for at least 5 years [1].
[1] https://community.spotify.com/t5/Closed-Ideas/Queue-length-i...
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#83Music app sucks, this guy's attitude sucks. Do you see a pattern here? Be the change you want to see in the world Samuel.
That's what he's doing though. Change flows from discontent. Complaints are the fuel of improvement.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple does care about customer feedback, but by and large, they're not looking for it on HN or in random blogs. If you want to reach out to them, you can do so here: https://www.apple.com/feedback/
"We cannot respond to you personally [...] we will contact you directly."
Here's what I found:
> we are unable to respond to each submission individually. If you provide your email address, you agree that we may contact you to better understand the comments you submitted
Which makes perfect sense IMO.
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#85The podcast app is trash too
Agreed. I find the Overcast app to be quite nice. I've been using that for 2+ years with few complaints.
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#86> First things first, why do I get a tab bar with 5 icons, and I only ever use 2 of them? I don’t care about “For You”, “Browse” and I certainly don’t give a rat’s ass about ”Radio”.
You lost me on the opening sentence. I didn't even bother to read the rest of the article. I was expecting this to be based some some valid objective reasons why the app sucks, not personal preferences.
I use Spotify, and have found the "Radio" feature really handy to find new music that is similar to music I already like - especially when creating a new radio station from a custom playlist I made or artist I like.
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#87Apple Music and Google Play, both applications made by managers hungry and desperate to generate profits but very unconcerned about the usability of the apps themselves. The sad thing is that you can't make apps that compete with Apple Music or Google Play. I would have already paid 100 dollars for a well made Winamp for me.
Cesium is a competitor/replacement for on-device library playback on iOS. Spotify competes for streaming. Not clear what you mean by "can't make apps that compete".
Spotify can't compete on the apple homepod, which is a huge (primary?) selling point for apple music.
Sure, you can use airplay, but that's more involved than "hey siri". Being able to just use your voice is great when you're cooking or washing the dishes.
Cesium is a great app.
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#88As someone who worked on Google Play Music for many years, I'd like to point out that a lot of the UX criticisms here are really just personal preferences, and those preferences are based in very large part on the way you listen to music. Some people are "lean back" listeners who just want to put on a radio station of music they like and not fiddle with it. Others are expert curators who have tens of thousands of tra…
What surprises me most about your post is that someone actually worked on Google Play Music for multiple years. Doing what? From what I could see, it shipped, then immediately turned into abandoned-ware which it still is today (in spite of being "replaced" by YouTube Music which is also abandoned-ware almost from its release). I actually still pay for GPM (for Ad-Free YouTube) but also pay for Amazon's Unlimited beca…
It may be abandonware, but it works well, and has very few bugs. I hope it stays abandoned in its current state for a long time.
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#89My main beef with Music as it currently stands is that the Now Playing tab is just a tiny phone-sized thing that refuses to fill the screen of my tablet. I wanna plug that thing into the stereo, play music, and SEE THE ALBUM ART like it’s 1986 and I’ve got the LP jacket sitting in front of the turntable.
Also the occasional attempts to upsell me to their streaming service that bring up a blank window that sits there waiting for something to load off the net and can only be dismissed by force quitting Music and hoping it doesn’t decide to do that again when I relaunch it can die in a fire.
I don’t curate playlists much and when I do it’s on the computer.
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#90> First things first, why do I get a tab bar with 5 icons, and I only ever use 2 of them? I don’t care about “For You”, “Browse” and I certainly don’t give a rat’s ass about ”Radio”. You lost me on the opening sentence. I didn't even bother to read the rest of the article. I was expecting this to be based some some valid objective reasons why the app sucks, not personal preferences. I use Spotify, and have found the…
A subsequent sentence mentioned no longer being able to customize the tab bar, which was his real complaint.