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Re: Show HN: I built a website to better compare USB-C hubs found on Amazon

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Awesome work. Having just gone through this for my company, I'd recommend a few valuable bits of information: - Thunderbolt 3 support filter - Power delivery capability (usually 60W-100W if at all) Both of those are valuable for mac shoppers.

I’ve got a carbon x (6th gen) and an iPhone X, I think what you want would work for me too. This is what I’m thinking of: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charging-PowerPort-Intelligent-... If someone happens to have experience with this, share your thoughts please!

I have one of these, and it is a great piece of kit - but it is not a USB hub of any kind: it only provides power.

Re: Show HN: I built a website to better compare USB-C hubs found on Amazon

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Awesome work. Having just gone through this for my company, I'd recommend a few valuable bits of information: - Thunderbolt 3 support filter - Power delivery capability (usually 60W-100W if at all) Both of those are valuable for mac shoppers.

Not only for macs... I have 4 raspberry pi4 powered through an USB hub and spent quite a bit of time looking for one that had at least 4 ports and that every port could deliver a minimum of 5V-3A. The US amazon had a few, but trying to find them (or similar) in several european Amazons was quite difficult.

Any chance of a link? I'm looking good something to power a Pi4 cluster. Thanks

Re: Show HN: I built a website to better compare USB-C hubs found on Amazon

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Nice work. I miss the ability to filter by video support. I got this one [1] without reading the fine print, and it only supports 4K at 30Hz, not 60Hz. I'm actually still looking for a hub that will do 4K/60Hz HDMI/DP and power delivery (and preferably 1-2 extra USB-C ports), so that I can power my MacBook Pro with it, and have it deliver video to my external display, all while only having one cable going into the Ma…

I was shopping for that the other day but didn't pull the trigger; here are some things I found. Thunderbolt docks have come down from ~$300 to ~$100 so you may be better off with that route. https://www.bigmessowires.com/2019/05/19/explaining-4k-60hz-... https://smile.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Multiport-DisplayPort... https://smile.amazon.com/Dell-Business-Thunderbolt-USB-C-Doc...

Thanks! The Dell is big and requires an external power supply, which is a no-go. The Cable Matters is better, but only does USB 2.0, which means I can't use it for hard drives. There's an HDMI version, but doesn't do 60Hz.

This is what I'm fighting right now. Lots of hubs, they all do some things right, but not everything. The reason is apparently answered by the first article ("any USB-C hub using this technique for 4K60 video can’t have any USB 3.1 ports on it").

I've yet to find a sub-$100 Thunderbolt dock. Monoprice had a sale on docks in December, bringing the price down to $56, but I was too slow to pull the trigger.

Re: Show HN: I built a website to better compare USB-C hubs found on Amazon

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This is so necessary! However, it still doesn't answer a burning question that I have: are there any USB-C hubs that can draw power from an upstream power delivery source and supply it to downstream USB-A devices?

Just to be clear, I don't expect you to have this answer. From what I can tell, the answer is "no that doesn't exist".

Re: Show HN: I built a website to better compare USB-C hubs found on Amazon

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From what I can see, none of these support multiple 4K monitors - how do people dock in situations like this? I’ve been using a USB-C eGPU with my multiple screens and Ethernet attached to that. Is there a cheaper way to do this?

You really can't without lots of compromises - 4K @ 60Hz uses most of the bandwidth that USB-C 3 can really provide.

Re: Show HN: I built a website to better compare USB-C hubs found on Amazon

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Needs to filter whether it can show HDMI 4K at 30Hz or 60Hz. And related to that, for video, it’s possible to have 2 4K 60hz through or one or none.

Also filter whether it’s one USB-C connects to computer or two USB-C connects to computer. With two USB-C connected to computer, can pass through more types of USB to accessories.

Finally, it doesn’t show matches that I know are matches.

// I buy these to test, but don’t want to waste time testing duds, so spend time trying to figure out if/when the claimed stats are possible.

101 Intro: https://www.howtogeek.com/211843/usb-type-c-explained-what-i...

301 Deep dive: https://www.bigmessowires.com/2019/05/19/explaining-4k-60hz-...

Re: Show HN: I built a website to better compare USB-C hubs found on Amazon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know you're right, but nowadays, everybody calls them hubs. But if you really need the hub you describe, here's one that I think conforms to what you describe: https://www.coolgear.com/product/usb-31-typec-4-port-hub-or-... For a little bit more, you can have 6 USB-C ports: https://www.coolgear.com/product/usb-3-1-dual-type-usb-c-a-8...

That's a USB3.1 hub that has USB-C connectors. While one can get away with that in the whole USB-C mess/confusion, it is usually not what people expect. You can't connect a monitor or power your device with this hub, for example.

At what point did a 'dock' become a 'hub'?

Re: Show HN: I built a website to better compare USB-C hubs found on Amazon

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oh goodness… yes, fine work, but this site rubs my hugest tech pet peeve today There is not a single USB-C hub on this site. A USB-C hub would take one USB-C port and turn it into several USB-C ports. These are what are called port replicators. There are no USB-C hubs in existence, which is a huge reason why the standard is still struggling. Thank you for putting a selector for "how many USB-C ports" front and center…

(why are there no “real” USB-C hubs? some say that it is due to the lack of the existence of a chip that Intel is going to release "any time now" for like a year now… others say that the power delivery requirements of USB-C make this really tricky)

Great question. Been waiting since 2015 on those...

Re: Show HN: I built a website to better compare USB-C hubs found on Amazon

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This is so necessary! However, it still doesn't answer a burning question that I have: are there any USB-C hubs that can draw power from an upstream power delivery source and supply it to downstream USB-A devices? Just to be clear, I don't expect you to have this answer. From what I can tell, the answer is "no that doesn't exist".

USB hubs did this even prior to PD. Is there a particular non-standard wattage you're looking for?

Re: Show HN: I built a website to better compare USB-C hubs found on Amazon

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Here’s a bug/feature request:

The website doesn’t support the Amazon links in Australia. When I click a link on my iPhone it opens the Amazon app, then tries to switch my app to the US listing which doesn’t work.

My suggestion is to provide multiple Amazon links for various countries.

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