Why do these things (pine, librem) have so much trouble producing audio? It seems like that would have been one of the first things to have got working.
PinePhone Review
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VOIP over 3g is terrible, and over LTE it's only slightly better. Latency and jitter are both very high, which makes it somewhat hostile to VOIP.
VOIP over LTE has been rock solid in my experience with T-Mobile on the east coast. I regularly get on (hands-free) VOIP Zoom calls during my 20 mile commute and almost never have any latency or packet loss issues.
I'm on Tingb(mvno using the T-Mobile networj) and on the West coast. Both zoom and Skype are completely unusable for me.
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#83Why do these things (pine, librem) have so much trouble producing audio? It seems like that would have been one of the first things to have got working.
Shady modem manufacturers.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
VOIP over LTE has been rock solid in my experience with T-Mobile on the east coast. I regularly get on (hands-free) VOIP Zoom calls during my 20 mile commute and almost never have any latency or packet loss issues.
I'm on Tingb(mvno using the T-Mobile networj) and on the West coast. Both zoom and Skype are completely unusable for me.
FWIW, I've been using VOIP for over a year now. I don't make a massive number of calls, but it's perfectly usable over LTE in Western Canada.
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#85"right now, there are very few people, perhaps only dozens, for whom this phone is the right phone, given the current level of software support." I think he greatly underestimates the number of people with the interest and ability to do this kind of work. If it's easily available, I'll probably get one and hack on it, and maybe contribute to some projects. And I'm far from something special or unusual.
The countless commercial failures of such projects since OpenMoko proves otherwise.
I see the PinePhone as a Raspberry Pi equivalent in the Smartphone world, there's definitely a big niche for that.
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The countless commercial failures of such projects since OpenMoko proves otherwise.
I see the PinePhone as a Raspberry Pi equivalent in the Smartphone world, there's definitely a big niche for that.
You don’t need your Raspberry PI to run your bank app, handle your payments or your bus-tickets. I’m not sure how I’d even purchase a non digital ticket for quite a few things in Denmark.
Don’t get me wrong, I really hope something like PinePhone sees enough adoption to get the apps I need a smartphone to run so I can break away from the two monopolies. I just don’t believe it will happen when Microsoft couldn’t do it.
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I hate to temper your excitement a little bit (I am excited too!), but I am not a bit surprised that LTE data works. Calling and SMS/MMS over LTE (for T-Mobile USA) are two things that at least that as of today, you need proprietary libraries to have it function on Android, and likely don't work on the Pinephone. I strongly suspect that other USA carriers will have the same issue (I say that because there are additio…
T-Mobile USA's system is bog-standard IMS with RCS extensions. There are a few open source client stacks that support this, notably Doubango's. The trick is writing a frontend that uses regular Linux GUI libraries. As far as I know, nobody has done that yet...
It could probably be implemented aa a plugin for Telepathy, which already has mobile-focused UI for multiple platforms.
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#88As long as I can run Firefox on it, and it got a micro-SIM, I'm good. There's a web alternative for most apps I use, where besides that I just need a tiny computer in my pocket with constant connection to the internet (hence, micro-SIM).
I still wish FirefoxOS would have come to live..
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#89> rumor has it that a call has successfully been placed
This has been my perception of Linux in general.
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T-Mobile USA's system is bog-standard IMS with RCS extensions. There are a few open source client stacks that support this, notably Doubango's. The trick is writing a frontend that uses regular Linux GUI libraries. As far as I know, nobody has done that yet...
It could probably be implemented aa a plugin for Telepathy, which already has mobile-focused UI for multiple platforms.
Telepathy seems to be dying on desktop GNU/Linux, the existing clients in GNOME/etc are being replaced by protocol-specific applications. New protocol plugins seem to happen more in Pidgin/libpurple these days.